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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 6207999" data-attributes="member: 1210">Well, not all of us portray elves, dwarves, etc as just funny-looking humans.I just got finished working on a document describing bits of the cultures and relationships between the &quot;civilized&quot; races. Nonhumans have very different cultures in my campaign, sometimes grounded to some extent in their biology (e.g. the long elven lifespan has a huge impact on their world view and behavior).The &quot;ugly&quot; humanoids (though honestly, there's nothing wrong with a handsome kobold) have distinctive nonhuman traits in my game too, and there are good goblins, orcs, etc. They just aren't the norm. I even have a civilization of orcs who have been converted to worship of the once-primary lawful good god of the campaign world.Anyhow, I don't think &quot;ugly&quot; is a good term for all the evil races. Goblins, bugbears, orcs and gnolls, sure. But I can easily picture a striking, severely handsome hobgoblin warlord, a cute kobold or a beautiful lizardfolk. &quot;We&quot; (by which I mean humans and the other pc races) consider most of them ugly because they look different; the civilized races look close enough to each other that they can overcome that mutual aversion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 6207999, member: 1210"] Well, not all of us portray elves, dwarves, etc as just funny-looking humans. I just got finished working on a document describing bits of the cultures and relationships between the "civilized" races. Nonhumans have very different cultures in my campaign, sometimes grounded to some extent in their biology (e.g. the long elven lifespan has a huge impact on their world view and behavior). The "ugly" humanoids (though honestly, there's nothing wrong with a handsome kobold) have distinctive nonhuman traits in my game too, and there are good goblins, orcs, etc. They just aren't the norm. I even have a civilization of orcs who have been converted to worship of the once-primary lawful good god of the campaign world. Anyhow, I don't think "ugly" is a good term for all the evil races. Goblins, bugbears, orcs and gnolls, sure. But I can easily picture a striking, severely handsome hobgoblin warlord, a cute kobold or a beautiful lizardfolk. "We" (by which I mean humans and the other pc races) consider most of them ugly because they look different; the civilized races look [i]close enough to each other[/i] that they can overcome that mutual aversion. [/QUOTE]

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