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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1850194" data-attributes="member: 177">Right, and how many actually know about it?For characters in the game - the number of spellcasters who have the wherewithal to go and find out are small, and only some of those who could find out would choose to do so.  And those that do tend to sit on their knowledge, what with the lack of mass-published media to spread teh word and all.  Net result is that most don't know jack about it.For players and DMs - the description of the positive and negative planes in the core rules are very short.  Hardly to be considered comprehensive.  They don't say one way or another.  So, it'd be up to the DM.  You don't know one way or another, because the rules don't stipulate.All in all, the idea that, morally speaking, a thing and it's effects can be separated is a modern, scientific one.  I'm not sure if that has much place in a pseudo-medieval world with magic and active gods and all.</blockquote>