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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 909546" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>Some mechanical counterpoints vs. KingCroMag's arguments.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>In a campaign which is planar binding-heavy, I would not underestimate the value of the Charisma check, or of this ability in general. I have already set the precedent that epic pseudonaturals are subject to <em>binding</em> like any other outsider, provided that their 'names' are known. It is in the discovery of the names that I have to exercise enormous caution: If the metagnostic were to uncover the name of, say, an epic pseudonatural solar, then an additional +5 or +10 on an opposed Charisma Check to compel service from it would be very nice indeed. The mechanic remains there, but the DM retains the flexibility to determine how useful it will be in play - if negative balance issues arise with the character (which I doubt), this offers a way to remedy them on an ongoing basis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This needs some work - In fact, I think I'd like it to supercede the Alienist's extra summoning ability. Note that a 9-level increase in the spell still gets you a CR 18 monster for a 10th level slot - which seems like a reasonably fair progression from <em>summon monster IX</em>.</p><p></p><p>Of course, there's nothing to stop firing off quickened, intensified fireballs <em>as well</em> as this ability - if you've got 14th level slots, you've got 14th level slots.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Dan wanted continual <em>foresight</em> as a class feature. I felt that was unreasonable. This is a nod towards balance, but I admit this needs thinking over. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I really don't think that the in-game implications will be that big. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Mainly flavour. When your companions are 20-something level and <em>mind blanked</em> this will have zero impact. And 30 feet isn't very far. Some good RP possibilities, though.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>+15 to Spellcraft checks can be quite useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 909546, member: 4303"] Some mechanical counterpoints vs. KingCroMag's arguments. In a campaign which is planar binding-heavy, I would not underestimate the value of the Charisma check, or of this ability in general. I have already set the precedent that epic pseudonaturals are subject to [I]binding[/I] like any other outsider, provided that their 'names' are known. It is in the discovery of the names that I have to exercise enormous caution: If the metagnostic were to uncover the name of, say, an epic pseudonatural solar, then an additional +5 or +10 on an opposed Charisma Check to compel service from it would be very nice indeed. The mechanic remains there, but the DM retains the flexibility to determine how useful it will be in play - if negative balance issues arise with the character (which I doubt), this offers a way to remedy them on an ongoing basis. This needs some work - In fact, I think I'd like it to supercede the Alienist's extra summoning ability. Note that a 9-level increase in the spell still gets you a CR 18 monster for a 10th level slot - which seems like a reasonably fair progression from [I]summon monster IX[/I]. Of course, there's nothing to stop firing off quickened, intensified fireballs [I]as well[/I] as this ability - if you've got 14th level slots, you've got 14th level slots. Dan wanted continual [I]foresight[/I] as a class feature. I felt that was unreasonable. This is a nod towards balance, but I admit this needs thinking over. I really don't think that the in-game implications will be that big. Mainly flavour. When your companions are 20-something level and [I]mind blanked[/I] this will have zero impact. And 30 feet isn't very far. Some good RP possibilities, though. +15 to Spellcraft checks can be quite useful. [/QUOTE]
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