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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Siuis" data-source="post: 5012824" data-attributes="member: 51622">Alienists rock!Hm. Well, there is an easy solution, there. Remove the restriction on metamagic when summoning terrors from parts best left unnoticed. It's a touch of bunkum that summoing takes a full round anyway - although that is an entirely biased notion. I've never seena  player really get anything good out of summoning critters, but that is because they are unimaginative, and our DM has no concept of power scaling. I so despise DMs who make up DC numbers, hoping for failure...A second though is, break up the progression. First, add the psuedonatural template over the course of a couple levels. Its a CR +2 template, so for a PC, an epic PC at that, it's not worth much more than 3-4 levels if you really wanna stretch it. Then start to substitute, augment and replace those abilities with the Epic Psuedonatural template. It is a big jump, agreed, but a dedicated character at around elvel 25 can already do betterr than this for combat -- the difference is, the powers aren't constant like they are for the template. My personal take would be to give the Xenomagulus two forms; His normal, castery humanoid form, and his Other form. As a normal (psuedonatural) creature, he would have full casting capacity, his alien trancedence (tentacle, multiple eyes, ears which hear colors, or whathaveyou), and can, as per the template, enter into a more grotesque tentacled form. I would give THIS version of the character the scaling benefits of the E. P. template, but make it so the character loses his spell-casting abilities. He'd become a freakish, fearsome melee combatant, but not a freakish, fearsome melee casting combatant.You could even give the human form a slower progression (say something like, the alternate form of the caster functions as if he were X levels higher for purposes of this prestige class) so over time, more and more of his alien nature becomes insupressable. A 40th level Epic Alienist would have more grotesque mutations than a 25th level epic alienist.Finally, you could dismiss this entirely. It's pretty easy for a relatively low-level epic caster to just grant themself the whole template; even if only temporarily. Doing something like granting them the Demonologist's improved summoning class feature would be just as good, if you had increased tables for Summon Monster spells. Or every extra level of Summon Monster can be an additional +4LA, whether advanced hit dice or added templates, or both. This would let a high enough level Alienist summon Epic Psuedonatural wolverines, and such. Not to terribly strong, but still worth keeping in the fight.Just suggestions, of course. I feel 50 levels is WAY too much, becuase the power curve becomes a curve, all right -- The difference in power from one level to the next becomes almost exponential, for a caster. You may find that by the time the PrC is maxed out, a straight wizard would trounce them in a fight.</blockquote>

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