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<blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 4949608" data-attributes="member: 9249"><p>A lot of thought has gone into the issue of multiclassing in 3e. There seems to be two kinds of basic multiclassing in 3e: one main class with one or more dips to get good early-level abilities from other classes, and staying more or less even in two base classes and sucking until you qualify for a prestige class designed to fix the fact that multiclass sucks.</p><p></p><p>I heard about this on the Paizo boards and don't take credit for it. (I'd credit the poster if I could remember his name.) I've taken it a step or two farther, though.</p><p></p><p><strong>Cross-Training</strong></p><p>Prerequisites: 2nd level in at least two different base classes.</p><p>Benefit: Choose two base classes in which you have at least 2 levels. For the purposes of class features, spells per day, and spells known in each class, half of your class level in the other class stacks. For the purposes of caster level and other class abilities which are calculated based on class level, your full level in both classes stack.</p><p>In addition, you may multiclass freely between these classes, and they count as a single class for the purpose of determining your multiclass XP penalty.</p><p>Special: This feat cannot be selected for prestige classes and prestige class levels never stack for the purposes of this feat.</p><p></p><p>So, for your classic exaxmple, a Cleric 3/Wizard 4 (same level as a Mystic Theurge 1) casts spells as a 5th level Cleric and a 5th level Wizard, with a caster level of 7 in both classes. A Cleric 3/Wizard 3/Mystic Theurge 1 would be casting as a Cleric 4/Wizard 4.</p><p></p><p>Rogue 2/Wizard X would make a competent Arcane Trickster, though the lack of skill points would be painful after a while.</p><p></p><p><strong>Improved Cross-Training</strong></p><p>Prerequisites: Cross-Training, 4th level in at least 3 base classes.</p><p>Benefit: Take the two base classes you selected with Cross-Training and choose a third base class in which you have attained at least 4th level. All three classes now stack when determining class-level based abilities, and three quarters of your levels in your other selected classes now stack when determining your class features, spells per day, and spells known.</p><p>In addition, you may multiclass freely between these classes, and they count as a single class for the purpose of determining your multiclass XP penalty.</p><p>Special: This feat cannot be selected for prestige classes and prestige class levels never stack for the purposes of this feat.</p><p></p><p>This allows you access to your Fighter/Mage/Thief, Cleric/Fighter/Magic-User and 1e Bard. At 4/4/4, you have the class features and spellcasting of 10th level characters with the standard BAB, HP, Saving Throws, and Skill Points.</p><p></p><p>While using these feats, you should probably disallow any of the "multiclass patch" prestige classes.</p><p></p><p>Also, if you're concerned about Rogue 2/Ranger X or Paladin 4/Favored Soul 4/Cleric X, you could impose the additional limitation that the benefits of the feat only apply as long as all involved classes are within one level of each other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Viktyr Gehrig, post: 4949608, member: 9249"] A lot of thought has gone into the issue of multiclassing in 3e. There seems to be two kinds of basic multiclassing in 3e: one main class with one or more dips to get good early-level abilities from other classes, and staying more or less even in two base classes and sucking until you qualify for a prestige class designed to fix the fact that multiclass sucks. I heard about this on the Paizo boards and don't take credit for it. (I'd credit the poster if I could remember his name.) I've taken it a step or two farther, though. [b]Cross-Training[/b] Prerequisites: 2nd level in at least two different base classes. Benefit: Choose two base classes in which you have at least 2 levels. For the purposes of class features, spells per day, and spells known in each class, half of your class level in the other class stacks. For the purposes of caster level and other class abilities which are calculated based on class level, your full level in both classes stack. In addition, you may multiclass freely between these classes, and they count as a single class for the purpose of determining your multiclass XP penalty. Special: This feat cannot be selected for prestige classes and prestige class levels never stack for the purposes of this feat. So, for your classic exaxmple, a Cleric 3/Wizard 4 (same level as a Mystic Theurge 1) casts spells as a 5th level Cleric and a 5th level Wizard, with a caster level of 7 in both classes. A Cleric 3/Wizard 3/Mystic Theurge 1 would be casting as a Cleric 4/Wizard 4. Rogue 2/Wizard X would make a competent Arcane Trickster, though the lack of skill points would be painful after a while. [b]Improved Cross-Training[/b] Prerequisites: Cross-Training, 4th level in at least 3 base classes. Benefit: Take the two base classes you selected with Cross-Training and choose a third base class in which you have attained at least 4th level. All three classes now stack when determining class-level based abilities, and three quarters of your levels in your other selected classes now stack when determining your class features, spells per day, and spells known. In addition, you may multiclass freely between these classes, and they count as a single class for the purpose of determining your multiclass XP penalty. Special: This feat cannot be selected for prestige classes and prestige class levels never stack for the purposes of this feat. This allows you access to your Fighter/Mage/Thief, Cleric/Fighter/Magic-User and 1e Bard. At 4/4/4, you have the class features and spellcasting of 10th level characters with the standard BAB, HP, Saving Throws, and Skill Points. While using these feats, you should probably disallow any of the "multiclass patch" prestige classes. Also, if you're concerned about Rogue 2/Ranger X or Paladin 4/Favored Soul 4/Cleric X, you could impose the additional limitation that the benefits of the feat only apply as long as all involved classes are within one level of each other. [/QUOTE]
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