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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4950183" data-attributes="member: 23619">That's what you've already got listed.Yeah, but that idea is flawed. Your paladin abilities don't and shouldn't continue to improve when you're not a paladin. Maintain, sure. Which means they stay where you leave them. But improve when you're doing nothing to improve them? No way. And when it comes to spellcasting, that idea is just nonsense. Saying a wizard gets better at casting spells when he decides to become a monk or rogue is like saying a doctor that decides to take up law or become an MMA fighter is going to still get better at medicine. No, he won't. He might--and I mean it loosely--be able to maintain his medical skills, but they sure as hell won't be improving because the time he would have spent improving them (gaining a level) is now spent doing something else completely unrelated.So, a rogue/wizard being able to take rogue BAB, skills and HD is meaningless? Your solutions aren't a fix to multiclassing at all. You're just trying to come up with a way to multiclass a spellcaster and allow them to continue improving their spellcasting level while taking levels in other classes. Why not just play using the gestalt rules then? From your comments here, it seems like that is really what you're wanting to do anyway. The thing is, your solution isn't a solution. It is designed primarily for improving spellcasting, under the thinly veiled guise of allowing it to operate for any class abilities. And that's not the problem with multiclassing. Multiclassing allows for variety at the expense of expertise. You're wanting the variety AND expertise all in one package. You're not even concerned about caster level (the Practiced Spellcaster feat, neatly takes care of that concern) either. You just want more spells and higher level spells for "free". If you took your two feats and made a Bard 8/Wizard 8/Fighter 4, you would have a character that could cast spells as a 17th level Bard (8 + 6 from wizard + 3 from fighter), cast spells as a 17th level Wizard (8 + 6 from bard + 3 from fighter), and have all the bonus feats of a 16th level Fighter (4 + 6 from Bard + 6 from Wizard). --And I use these levels instead of 7/7/6 because 8/8/4 divides evenly. There are all kinds of broken things you could do. A Fighter 8/Monk 8/Rogue 4 would be a devastating opponent. Cleric 8/Druid 8/Ranger 4 would be a beast, and a Wizard 8/Sorcerer 8/Bard 4 would never run out of arcane spells!Take your idea back to the drawing board. Or at least be honest about what you're wanting to do. Your solution doesn't fix multiclassing, it would be enough to make DMs BAN multiclassing.</blockquote>

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