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<blockquote data-quote="Aeric" data-source="post: 3549118" data-attributes="member: 17012"><p>That's ridiculous. They established in this movie that Davy Jones wasn't cursed so much as burdened with a responsibility. He was supposed to ferry the dead to the afterlife. If the "curse" is broken, then who's going to do that job?</p><p></p><p>Also, the green flash was said to indicate a soul's return from the (land of the) dead, and since Will wasn't dead in the first place, it wasn't significant in that respect. It seemed to indicate that someone crossed the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead, one way or the other. There was a green flash when the Dutchman disappeared with Will for the first time, supporting this theory.</p><p></p><p>A lot of this movie was confusing. For example:</p><p></p><p>Sao Feng talking to Elizabeth as if she is Calypso, and her reacting as if she was. Someone had to explain to me that he assumed she was Calypso by the way everyone was treating her and because she was the only woman around (Tia Dalma didn't interact with Sao Feng, IIRC). BUT, as one of the nine Pirate Lords, he must have been there when they bound her in the first place. And I can understand Elizabeth being canny enough to go along with the misunderstanding in order to get one over on Feng, but there should have been some kind of initial reaction on her part to communicate this. Something like "what are you talking about? I'm not--oh! I mean, uhh...." Funny and effective, and certainly fitting with the tone of these movies.</p><p></p><p>I agree with previous posters that the whole Calypso thing was unneccessary. We already knew that Jones was in love with Tia Dalma and that she wasn't faithful to him. She didn't need to be some sea goddess for this to be important. I figured that Calypso would be AWE's new villain, and that the two fleets would have to team up together at the end to take her out once and for all. That would have been cool. All she did was create a whirlpool. Big deal.</p><p></p><p>I also found the change in story about the true nature of Davy Jones from DMC to AWE to be jarring and confusing. In DMC, he was this sailor who was spurned by a woman, and so he reacted by becoming this terrible demon of the sea. I can dig that, it goes along with the theme of curses established in CotBP. In AWE, he became this sympathetic ferryman character who became twisted because of his obsession. Why did he cut out his heart? In DMC, it was so he would never feel the pain of Dalma's betrayal again. In AWE, it was a job prerequisite for the ferryman. Was it so the captain wouldn't miss his loved ones? It obviously didn't work in Jones' case, since it was his feelings that twisted him into the monster he became. Jones' dereliction of duty didn't make sense, either. There were the floating bodies which were supposed to be guided by Jones to the afterlife, but what about the ones in the boats? They seemed to be doing okay, besides, y'know, being dead.</p><p></p><p>Despite all of the confusion, there were some great elements in this movie. All of the stuff with World's End reminded me of Baron Munchausen or Time Bandits, and the crabs inexplicibly helping Jack get the Pearl back into the water led credence to his story about sea turtles, even though we know that was a tall tale. The town of Shipwreck was just plain amazing-looking, like something out of a Final Fantasy game. And the pirates we met there looked awesome, especially the Spanish pirates and, of course, Teague.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aeric, post: 3549118, member: 17012"] That's ridiculous. They established in this movie that Davy Jones wasn't cursed so much as burdened with a responsibility. He was supposed to ferry the dead to the afterlife. If the "curse" is broken, then who's going to do that job? Also, the green flash was said to indicate a soul's return from the (land of the) dead, and since Will wasn't dead in the first place, it wasn't significant in that respect. It seemed to indicate that someone crossed the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead, one way or the other. There was a green flash when the Dutchman disappeared with Will for the first time, supporting this theory. A lot of this movie was confusing. For example: Sao Feng talking to Elizabeth as if she is Calypso, and her reacting as if she was. Someone had to explain to me that he assumed she was Calypso by the way everyone was treating her and because she was the only woman around (Tia Dalma didn't interact with Sao Feng, IIRC). BUT, as one of the nine Pirate Lords, he must have been there when they bound her in the first place. And I can understand Elizabeth being canny enough to go along with the misunderstanding in order to get one over on Feng, but there should have been some kind of initial reaction on her part to communicate this. Something like "what are you talking about? I'm not--oh! I mean, uhh...." Funny and effective, and certainly fitting with the tone of these movies. I agree with previous posters that the whole Calypso thing was unneccessary. We already knew that Jones was in love with Tia Dalma and that she wasn't faithful to him. She didn't need to be some sea goddess for this to be important. I figured that Calypso would be AWE's new villain, and that the two fleets would have to team up together at the end to take her out once and for all. That would have been cool. All she did was create a whirlpool. Big deal. I also found the change in story about the true nature of Davy Jones from DMC to AWE to be jarring and confusing. In DMC, he was this sailor who was spurned by a woman, and so he reacted by becoming this terrible demon of the sea. I can dig that, it goes along with the theme of curses established in CotBP. In AWE, he became this sympathetic ferryman character who became twisted because of his obsession. Why did he cut out his heart? In DMC, it was so he would never feel the pain of Dalma's betrayal again. In AWE, it was a job prerequisite for the ferryman. Was it so the captain wouldn't miss his loved ones? It obviously didn't work in Jones' case, since it was his feelings that twisted him into the monster he became. Jones' dereliction of duty didn't make sense, either. There were the floating bodies which were supposed to be guided by Jones to the afterlife, but what about the ones in the boats? They seemed to be doing okay, besides, y'know, being dead. Despite all of the confusion, there were some great elements in this movie. All of the stuff with World's End reminded me of Baron Munchausen or Time Bandits, and the crabs inexplicibly helping Jack get the Pearl back into the water led credence to his story about sea turtles, even though we know that was a tall tale. The town of Shipwreck was just plain amazing-looking, like something out of a Final Fantasy game. And the pirates we met there looked awesome, especially the Spanish pirates and, of course, Teague. [/QUOTE]
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