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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 9632841" data-attributes="member: 6879661">it’s only +3 to attack and damage if the monk has Dex 20 a unlikely at level 20 considering how MAD the class is. It’s more likely to be +4 or +5. That’s going to be adding 20-25+ more damage every round and making every hit pretty much guaranteed.Monk is not a high AC class. +2 AC is likely to make little difference at level 9+ where monster attack bonuses quickly outpace AC growth.Haste doesn’t give an extra Action it gives a very limited set of actions. Dash, Hide, a single Attack, Disengage or Utilize. For a barbarian, fighter or rogue this would be amazing but for a monk it is likely to be useful but not outside the pale. Monks can already do several of these things with their own abilities.Finally speed is useful but a 9th level monk is already faster than any other character. Being three times as fast instead of just double doesn’t meaningfully make a difference, unless the player is cheesing that in some other way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 9632841, member: 6879661"] it’s only +3 to attack and damage if the monk has Dex 20 a unlikely at level 20 considering how MAD the class is. It’s more likely to be +4 or +5. That’s going to be adding 20-25+ more damage every round and making every hit pretty much guaranteed. Monk is not a high AC class. +2 AC is likely to make little difference at level 9+ where monster attack bonuses quickly outpace AC growth. Haste doesn’t give an extra Action it gives a very limited set of actions. Dash, Hide, a single Attack, Disengage or Utilize. For a barbarian, fighter or rogue this would be amazing but for a monk it is likely to be useful but not outside the pale. Monks can already do several of these things with their own abilities. Finally speed is useful but a 9th level monk is already faster than any other character. Being three times as fast instead of just double doesn’t meaningfully make a difference, unless the player is cheesing that in some other way. [/QUOTE]

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