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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 3895588" data-attributes="member: 48665">I am going low tech and simple here, the tyrants have forces that are as yet unknown / unseen that keep them in power so that a single epic character *CAN'T* topple them.&nbsp; Whether that is they are actually epic tyrants, they have epic henchmen, or some type of god / demon backing.I have to go with Umbran here, and getting slightly off-topic for a second this sounds like the whole DM power thing, which has actually never been an issue for me, and never would be.&nbsp; The minute my players &quot;revolt&quot; or decide to take power or take control is the minute they &quot;fired&quot; me and they find a new DM.&nbsp; Back on topic, as Umbran said, the DM and his world can easily come up with equalizers for god complex epic characters in the form of actual gods, other god complex NPC's, shifts in the very fabric of reality, any number of things in the *universe* that can overwhelm 4-6 even epic PC's.&nbsp; Because in the universal scheme of things, they really aren't so epic after all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cougent, post: 3895588, member: 48665"] I am going low tech and simple here, the tyrants have forces that are as yet unknown / unseen that keep them in power so that a single epic character [b]*CAN'T*[/b] topple them. Whether that is they are actually epic tyrants, they have epic henchmen, or some type of god / demon backing. I have to go with Umbran here, and getting slightly off-topic for a second this sounds like the whole DM power thing, which has actually never been an issue for me, and never would be. The minute my players "revolt" or decide to take power or take control is the minute they "fired" me and they find a new DM. Back on topic, as Umbran said, the DM and his world can easily come up with equalizers for god complex epic characters in the form of actual gods, other god complex NPC's, shifts in the very fabric of reality, any number of things in the [b]*universe*[/b] that can overwhelm 4-6 even epic PC's. Because in the universal scheme of things, they really aren't so epic after all. [/QUOTE]

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