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<blockquote data-quote="Slife" data-source="post: 3910711" data-attributes="member: 16347"><p>"Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the first half of this list?"</p><p>No</p><p>"Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the last quarter of this list?"</p><p>No</p><p>"Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the fifth eighth of this list?"</p><p>Yes</p><p>"Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people option number ten?"</p><p>Yes</p><p></p><p>And if the god of economics can't sort out the economy, it's kind of pointless for the PCs to try, donchaknow.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But it'll be fun. We're talking about high level PCs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Looks like the bard will have to have a polite discussion with the high priests instead.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then it isn't a very religious strife. And if the people in control of the religion can't do anything, then how can the PCs? Why not instead save the universe from the Krezlings of the Fourteenth Veil, who even now are destroying the barriers between the material plane and the world of shadows?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Covered by the magic item. If you're going to houserule that it requires a craft check, it's fortunate that there are spells like improvisation to give massive bonuses (twice caster level). That building? Made with a +40 to the check. It's double masterwork.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, the amount of GP you listed as the cost is so ridiculously high (equivalent to the wages of 547945 people for a year), that I assumed that the economy was even worse off than the typical DnD economy. </p><p></p><p>Assuming a typical modern laborer works for $5/hour for 8 hours a day for 100 days/year (an extreme underestimation, to be sure), your building project would cost $2,191,780,000 USD.</p><p>That's about five times the cost of the entire US interstate highway system (adjusted for inflation).</p><p></p><p>If you want to use economics, you can't use the DnD rules as written. And if you're not using the DnD rules, this discussion is kind of pointless.</p><p></p><p> (For just one example, a piece of cheese costs an entire day's wages (the same as poor meals for a day). A bucket would take five days to earn.) I'm not going to go into the ridiculously inflated prices of iron, or any of the other materials than can be produced at no cost with magic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If using the spell was implicitly evil, it would have the [evil] descriptor. Since it doesn't, it isn't. Diplomacy is more surefire, though, which is why you brought the bard along.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slife, post: 3910711, member: 16347"] "Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the first half of this list?" No "Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the last quarter of this list?" No "Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people in the fifth eighth of this list?" Yes "Is the option which benefits the greatest number of people option number ten?" Yes And if the god of economics can't sort out the economy, it's kind of pointless for the PCs to try, donchaknow. But it'll be fun. We're talking about high level PCs. Looks like the bard will have to have a polite discussion with the high priests instead. Then it isn't a very religious strife. And if the people in control of the religion can't do anything, then how can the PCs? Why not instead save the universe from the Krezlings of the Fourteenth Veil, who even now are destroying the barriers between the material plane and the world of shadows? Covered by the magic item. If you're going to houserule that it requires a craft check, it's fortunate that there are spells like improvisation to give massive bonuses (twice caster level). That building? Made with a +40 to the check. It's double masterwork. Well, the amount of GP you listed as the cost is so ridiculously high (equivalent to the wages of 547945 people for a year), that I assumed that the economy was even worse off than the typical DnD economy. Assuming a typical modern laborer works for $5/hour for 8 hours a day for 100 days/year (an extreme underestimation, to be sure), your building project would cost $2,191,780,000 USD. That's about five times the cost of the entire US interstate highway system (adjusted for inflation). If you want to use economics, you can't use the DnD rules as written. And if you're not using the DnD rules, this discussion is kind of pointless. (For just one example, a piece of cheese costs an entire day's wages (the same as poor meals for a day). A bucket would take five days to earn.) I'm not going to go into the ridiculously inflated prices of iron, or any of the other materials than can be produced at no cost with magic. If using the spell was implicitly evil, it would have the [evil] descriptor. Since it doesn't, it isn't. Diplomacy is more surefire, though, which is why you brought the bard along. [/QUOTE]
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