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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 308385" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Attack and Statistics</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, that was just a side effect of this particular example.</p><p></p><p>Imagine a character with two weapons and a BAB of 16 or 5 attacks per round.</p><p></p><p>Dropping 1 to hit for many ACs (i.e. where the highest attacks are at the 95% level, even if you drop some to hit from them) will drop 3 different attacks by 5%, but increase 5 different attacks by 1.</p><p></p><p>Well, if you are doing D8+8 at that point, 1 additional point is about an 8% increase in damage for 5 different attacks (or 40% increase in damage) at the cost of 15% (0.15) in the to hit column.</p><p></p><p>So, a drop of 3 AC might result in 4 or 5 being lowered from the BAB to PA.</p><p></p><p>The equations worked out so well in this example since the to hit was near 20 and the damage was near 20. Hence, the nice smooth curves until you add a LOT (e.g. AC 9 example) to PA. But, there are a lot of to hit/damage ratios where that smooth curve does not exist. Things like the following occur:</p><p></p><p>AC PA</p><p>30 +1</p><p>29 +1</p><p>28 +2</p><p>27 +3</p><p>26 +3</p><p>25 +4</p><p>24 +5</p><p>23 +6</p><p></p><p>with no consistent pattern, just depending on what the to hit/damage ratio and how many attacks per round you are talking about. Ditto for the single attack case, but the curve for that tends to be smoother, but not always a 1 to 1 ratio.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 308385, member: 2011"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Attack and Statistics[/b] Actually, that was just a side effect of this particular example. Imagine a character with two weapons and a BAB of 16 or 5 attacks per round. Dropping 1 to hit for many ACs (i.e. where the highest attacks are at the 95% level, even if you drop some to hit from them) will drop 3 different attacks by 5%, but increase 5 different attacks by 1. Well, if you are doing D8+8 at that point, 1 additional point is about an 8% increase in damage for 5 different attacks (or 40% increase in damage) at the cost of 15% (0.15) in the to hit column. So, a drop of 3 AC might result in 4 or 5 being lowered from the BAB to PA. The equations worked out so well in this example since the to hit was near 20 and the damage was near 20. Hence, the nice smooth curves until you add a LOT (e.g. AC 9 example) to PA. But, there are a lot of to hit/damage ratios where that smooth curve does not exist. Things like the following occur: AC PA 30 +1 29 +1 28 +2 27 +3 26 +3 25 +4 24 +5 23 +6 with no consistent pattern, just depending on what the to hit/damage ratio and how many attacks per round you are talking about. Ditto for the single attack case, but the curve for that tends to be smoother, but not always a 1 to 1 ratio. [/QUOTE]
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