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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 4557836" data-attributes="member: 12032">At the heroic tier we are talking -2 to attack and +4 damage with a two-handed weapon, yes?&nbsp; Say you are 2nd level, and have a +1 d12 weapon and a damage bonus of +4 (pretty normal) for d12+5 damage.&nbsp; Now say you need an 11 to hit (also pretty normal).Normal average is 11.5*(10/20) or 5.75Power attack is 15.5* (8/20) = 6.2Weapon foucs is 12.5*(10/20) or 6.25If you needed a 6 (and how often does _that_ happen?)11.5*(15/20) =8.62514.5*(13/20) = 9.42512.5*(15/20)=9.375Moral of the story, you are right, power attack sucks.&nbsp;&nbsp; Epic tier you are looking at 2d12+18 damage or 31 on a hit.&nbsp; The math will come out about the same.&nbsp; So in the best case (which is rare: at-will vs. low AC) it is about as good as weapon focus.----Fix?&nbsp; Maybe half the bonus damage and a follow-up attack vs. fort (still at -2) on a hit and then apply a condition for one round (daze?).&nbsp; Maybe same as normal but on a crit you get an extra [w] damage per tier?&nbsp; Maybe double bonus damage but grant CA to all on a miss?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 4557836, member: 12032"] At the heroic tier we are talking -2 to attack and +4 damage with a two-handed weapon, yes? Say you are 2nd level, and have a +1 d12 weapon and a damage bonus of +4 (pretty normal) for d12+5 damage. Now say you need an 11 to hit (also pretty normal). Normal average is 11.5*(10/20) or 5.75 Power attack is 15.5* (8/20) = 6.2 Weapon foucs is 12.5*(10/20) or 6.25 If you needed a 6 (and how often does _that_ happen?) 11.5*(15/20) =8.625 14.5*(13/20) = 9.425 12.5*(15/20)=9.375 Moral of the story, you are right, power attack sucks. Epic tier you are looking at 2d12+18 damage or 31 on a hit. The math will come out about the same. So in the best case (which is rare: at-will vs. low AC) it is about as good as weapon focus. ---- Fix? Maybe half the bonus damage and a follow-up attack vs. fort (still at -2) on a hit and then apply a condition for one round (daze?). Maybe same as normal but on a crit you get an extra [w] damage per tier? Maybe double bonus damage but grant CA to all on a miss? [/QUOTE]

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