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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3312879" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>Polls' results are as reliable as statistics. They can be crafted to prove what the author intends to prove.</p><p></p><p>Take notes from Firebeetle if you'd like an example.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know that they did. The ruling they came to is 1-for-1 PA for a mounted lance. <em>Why</em> they did so may be as varied as the number of ways alchemists purposed to turn lead into gold. But as alchemists believed they could change one element into another, lance-revisionists assume that "wield a lance in one hand" is the same as "a lance becomes a one-handed weapon". They may not be aware of the assumption, but it is a necessary assumption for a 1-for-1 conclusion.</p><p></p><p>And necessary for that assumption to work is the idea that words to not contain meaning, but rather that meaning is supplied by the reader. Which is a dangerous idea when brought to its logical conclusion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Who was it that said, "If a million people say a silly thing, it is still a silly thing"? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>And while I do discount your opinion and the opinion of the majority of players you have encountered (including the Sage), what it has done is force me to re-examine my analysis. I have done so and reached the same conclusion as I previously had. I don't see how doing so "limits my views on the subject". </p><p></p><p>What <em>does</em> "limits my views on the subject" mean, exactly? Because it sounds like something I ought to be ashamed of and derided for having comitted. It smells like a mid-90's politically incorrect "close-minded" clone, a phrase which deserves being thrown in the midden, and shoved back under when it tries to resurface.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3312879, member: 3929"] Polls' results are as reliable as statistics. They can be crafted to prove what the author intends to prove. Take notes from Firebeetle if you'd like an example. I don't know that they did. The ruling they came to is 1-for-1 PA for a mounted lance. [i]Why[/i] they did so may be as varied as the number of ways alchemists purposed to turn lead into gold. But as alchemists believed they could change one element into another, lance-revisionists assume that "wield a lance in one hand" is the same as "a lance becomes a one-handed weapon". They may not be aware of the assumption, but it is a necessary assumption for a 1-for-1 conclusion. And necessary for that assumption to work is the idea that words to not contain meaning, but rather that meaning is supplied by the reader. Which is a dangerous idea when brought to its logical conclusion. Who was it that said, "If a million people say a silly thing, it is still a silly thing"? :D And while I do discount your opinion and the opinion of the majority of players you have encountered (including the Sage), what it has done is force me to re-examine my analysis. I have done so and reached the same conclusion as I previously had. I don't see how doing so "limits my views on the subject". What [i]does[/i] "limits my views on the subject" mean, exactly? Because it sounds like something I ought to be ashamed of and derided for having comitted. It smells like a mid-90's politically incorrect "close-minded" clone, a phrase which deserves being thrown in the midden, and shoved back under when it tries to resurface. [/QUOTE]
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