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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 527149" data-attributes="member: 4036">It's a direct quote that says not to do it the way you and nobody else thinks it should be done.  "One feat" does not mean "the feat listed in the MM".  "8 skills" does not mean the "8 skills listed in the MM".If it had, it would say so.  E-mail the Sage at Dragon Magazine, or Wizards Customer Service, or the guy who wrote the DMG, or whom ever you like.  Better yet, play it your way.  But at least be fair.  If ogres, hobgoblins, orcs, and trolls must choose the feat they have in the MM, so should everyone.  All elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, and humans should be forced to take the warrior class before any other and be forced to take the one feat and selected skills put forth in the MM.  Fair's fair.Your point of view makes no sense in light of the rules, it makes no sense from a rules perspective.  The only posible validity I can see to it is as a way to either force carbon copy uniformity in your world (which I can't see why you'd want to, seems awefully boring), or to limit your players to being stereotypical if you are so gracious as to allow them to play something not in the PHB.  If the second is your intention there are many more rules-supported ways to limit them if you are big on rules, and an infinite number of non-rules supported ways to keep everything balanced if you want to get creative.Buy what ever you like.  You have yet to provide one iota of ANYTHING to the contrary or even give an alternate interpretation of the text on DMG 24.  You keep dodging that and picking something I say to disagree with and completely avoiding giving your own interpretation of the text.Fine.  You disagree with me, but I haven't heard you disagree with the rule I quoted so that's good enough for me.If you haven't read it by now you aren't going to.I think I'm going to go enjoy something slightly less akin to beating my head up against a stone wall.</blockquote>

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