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Power build [psionic] feat, ((Retired))
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<blockquote data-quote="Someone" data-source="post: 3403390" data-attributes="member: 5656"><p>It's possible to do that if you don't mind taking damage (you can't use Talented since you spent your focus getting the temporal power point). It's possible with Psionic meditation or Psicristal focus: then it'd be very feat intensive, but many of those are no brainers for many builds anyway. Notice anyway that making precombat powers more useful is Overchannel's (and Talented's) fault: this feat will save you one power point, but it does save the point no matter what, Overchanneled or not. In fact, the more expensive the power, the less useful Power Build is. If you still feel the combo is too powerful I'm reday to change the feat's wording, though I'm not sure how to do it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, at levels other than the lowest ones. Psionic talent is seldom taken since it's very much like Toughness: it's useful at levels 1 or two, then becomes a wasted feat. Suppose you are a Psychic warrior. Unless you have Wis 18 you'll have 0 or 1 power points (if your wis is 14,15,16 or 17) You can't have a psionic focus if you have 0 power points, or if you have 1, at the moment you manifest your power you'll lose it. You can take Psionic talent and solve that problem; if you're playing a one shot module, you can even take it twice and have 5 extra power points to cast your Force shield as many times as needed. Notice that Power build won't help in that situation, since you must spend your own power points anyway.</p><p></p><p>The other possible use of Psionic talent is to have more power points for abilities that require you to spend them, like the Elan's resilience, the pyrokineticist's <em>firewalk</em>, powering a deep psicrystal weapon or owning a weapn with the Psychich ability and you don't have many power points (you are a psionic race and do not have a psionic class, or your character build has only one or two levels of a psionic class). Power build doesn't help with those, since it specifies that the temporal power point must be spent on powers.</p><p></p><p>So IMO Psionic talent, underpowered as it is won't be obsolete.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you can't, unless you manifest a Swift power. In round 1 you spend a standard action and one focus and get the PPs. Next round you spend a standard action again and your second focus and get more PPs, but now your first PPs will dissapear at the end of this round. Unless you manifest a power with less manifesting time than a standard action, you'll now lose half of them, and those are useful precisely because the can be manifested quickly. Spending two rounds to power them defeats their purpose, nomatter how cheap they become.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is true, and in fact you have two move actions to try to get your Focus back, if you manifest powers with a manifesting time of 1 standard action when using Psionic Meditation. Making the feat use a full round action instead of a standard would partially solve that. Should I edit the power?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Someone, post: 3403390, member: 5656"] It's possible to do that if you don't mind taking damage (you can't use Talented since you spent your focus getting the temporal power point). It's possible with Psionic meditation or Psicristal focus: then it'd be very feat intensive, but many of those are no brainers for many builds anyway. Notice anyway that making precombat powers more useful is Overchannel's (and Talented's) fault: this feat will save you one power point, but it does save the point no matter what, Overchanneled or not. In fact, the more expensive the power, the less useful Power Build is. If you still feel the combo is too powerful I'm reday to change the feat's wording, though I'm not sure how to do it. I agree, at levels other than the lowest ones. Psionic talent is seldom taken since it's very much like Toughness: it's useful at levels 1 or two, then becomes a wasted feat. Suppose you are a Psychic warrior. Unless you have Wis 18 you'll have 0 or 1 power points (if your wis is 14,15,16 or 17) You can't have a psionic focus if you have 0 power points, or if you have 1, at the moment you manifest your power you'll lose it. You can take Psionic talent and solve that problem; if you're playing a one shot module, you can even take it twice and have 5 extra power points to cast your Force shield as many times as needed. Notice that Power build won't help in that situation, since you must spend your own power points anyway. The other possible use of Psionic talent is to have more power points for abilities that require you to spend them, like the Elan's resilience, the pyrokineticist's [i]firewalk[/i], powering a deep psicrystal weapon or owning a weapn with the Psychich ability and you don't have many power points (you are a psionic race and do not have a psionic class, or your character build has only one or two levels of a psionic class). Power build doesn't help with those, since it specifies that the temporal power point must be spent on powers. So IMO Psionic talent, underpowered as it is won't be obsolete. No, you can't, unless you manifest a Swift power. In round 1 you spend a standard action and one focus and get the PPs. Next round you spend a standard action again and your second focus and get more PPs, but now your first PPs will dissapear at the end of this round. Unless you manifest a power with less manifesting time than a standard action, you'll now lose half of them, and those are useful precisely because the can be manifested quickly. Spending two rounds to power them defeats their purpose, nomatter how cheap they become. This is true, and in fact you have two move actions to try to get your Focus back, if you manifest powers with a manifesting time of 1 standard action when using Psionic Meditation. Making the feat use a full round action instead of a standard would partially solve that. Should I edit the power? [/QUOTE]
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