Power Classes IV - Noble

There are few character classes more blessed than the Noble. Highly educated and with access to great wealth and inheritance, the Noble cuts a charming figure through high society and yet lives for the dangers, risks and thrills only adventuring can provide.
 

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This is not a playtest review.

Noble is the fourth in Mongoose's Power Classes series, offering a new class which can be taken from 1st level.

Noble comprises 16 half-A4-size staplebound pages, cut vertically in the same manner as AEG's Adventure Keep modules. At $2.95, this is a very high price per page (AEG's Adventure Keep modules were $2.49 at the same page count). The inside covers are used for credits and OGL but, unlike AEG's Adventure Keep modules, information from the back cover is reproduced on the first page. Font size is good, margins are average (but due to the format are effectively doubled compared to an A4 size format) and there are a couple of instances of white space. The four pieces of mono internal art and the colour front cover are fairly average. Due to the nature of the content, the writing style is pretty mechanics-driven - what isn't mechanics-driven is fairly good. Editing also seems good.

Most of the book is essentially a new 20-level class, the Noble. The layout follows the standard template set by Core Rulebook I. The noble is a specialist in social settings. She has a d6 hit die, a Rogue's BAB, 6 skill points per level, and a sorcerer's Save progression. But the noble excels in the realm of interpersonal communication, with knowledge of the latest gossip, the ability to taunt and demean her opponents, enhanced Leadership, and the ability to rally allies like a bard. He can also use her power and wealth to influence others, with a number of class features that progress in power based on the social influence of the noble. She also has a choice of a number of social skills as she progresses in level, including such advantages as a powerful ally, the ability to smear someone's reputation, or a secret refuge, amongst others.

The last page contains a new minor artifact, the blade of nobility - a +2 keen longsword that grants a bonus to Charisma but has a dark secret attached to it. There is also a new feat, Well-heeled Family, which grants a bonus to Dilpomacy with those who know of your status, or to call upon allies.

Conclusion:
The noble seems a worthy addition to the standard classes. She may seem weak in a campaign which concentrates on dungeon-delving and combat, but will excel in role-playing-oriented and political campaigns. The choice seems a good one for groups who enjoy character development and encourages the GM to explore issues of nobility, rank and influence within her campaign setting. The value in terms of concept quality and the low price outweigh the high price per page of this accessory.
 

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the Power Class reviews and peaks inside. I've been looking forward to seeing these products since Matt announced them, especially the noble class. I had an observation about your price-per-page criteria in this case, however.

I'm not sure that comparing a similar size and format adventure to a new class for price-per-page is entirely fair - after all, and adventure is usually a one shot deal, but a new character class can be played multiple times. This observation may be moot as both products cost under $3, and you sort of elude to this in the last paragraph of your review :)

Anyhow, thanks for the reviews, and keep up the good work :)

Best,

jaerdaph
 
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Joe

Yep, valid comment. Especially, as Psion points out in his comment on my Assassin review, that the later AEG adventures are $2.95.

My only excuse is that its the same size and page count - its OK to compare it on a pure price per page, but not on a value for money basis, IMHO.

Maybe I should have been clearer and stated that the price per page did not influence my score on any of the Power Classes reviews. I just wanted to point it out.

Simon Collins
 

Personally, I have always doubted the utility of the price-per-page comparison as a general rule. What, exactly, does it really tell you? The content of the pages, the value for money, is far more important. Price per page makes a review seem somehow objective on some level, but it is really a meaningless statistic.

E=MC^2 is immensely valuable, yet not many words. A writer can produce a long and low priced book of drivel. Viewed in a price per page manner, the drivel is the better value.

The contents of a game book are not a commodity like pork bellies. Tyhe value lies in the ideas presented in the book, bot the number of pages needed to encapsulate them.

I am not saying that you, or any other reviewer who uses price per page as part of a review, are placing undue weight on the quantity of material, but why bother with PPP at all?

Brad Johnston
 

Brad

Heck of a good point there.

The only validity I can think of is that publishers don't price their material on how good it is (AFAIK), but on the cost of publishing a certain number of pages. If a publisher over-prices their offering comparative to other products of a similar size and type, then I feel the buyer needs a heads-up about this. It shouldn't influence the score of a review though (IMHO).

What are your thoughts? Or anybody else's? I'll amend the info in my reviews with a strong enough argument.

Simon Collins
 

I see two immediate and pretty severe problems with the concept of "price per page" being a valid metric for these (or any RPG) books.

Firstly, I've not seen account for variation in aspects such as full color vs black and white printing, high gloss vs matt paper, or even hard back vs softback, let alone quality of binding method. These are all variations which will change both the cost and value of a product per page, even given identical content.

The second is this;
"The only validity I can think of is that publishers don't price their material on how good it is (AFAIK), but on the cost of publishing a certain number of pages."

Is not an entirely true statement; publishers price their goods on the basis of first recouping and then making a profit upon the costs of producing an item. There are far more (almost certainly far more important) aspects to that cost than the number of pages in the finished book...

Production of text, its editing, playtesting, production and direction of artwork, page layout, quality of printing, quality of paper stock used, binding technology used. All of these not only influence the cost of the product more than adding an extra 8 pages, they also frequently influence the final value of the product to us punters far more.

Consider the comparison of the value to the punter of a pair of £9.99 books. The first has good editing, good content and 32 pages. The second has 200 pages, but they are all blank. Its a facetious argument, but it does illustrate that bald page count is no indicator of value or quality...

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Finally, I just realised that the metric is entirely specious if you do not account for variations in font size and text density in the product; 198 pages in a size 16 font might well not compare to the same prose in size 10 font, and how do products like Slaine compare, with full page art come out? (is that a wasted page, a full-value page, or a bonus-value page? should that page figure in a PPP metric when comapred to a product with no art to speak of?)
 

Monkeyboy, the counterargument is 2 9.99 books on the same topic (say necromancy, or elves, or monsters) both with good stuff, one being 32 pages, one being 64 If I was only going to buy one, and all else was even I'd go with getting more info and material. Amount of material for the money can be a factor. In buying ESDs which are all $5 I found myself looking over (and getting) the supermodules, big sourcebooks and boxed sets more than the 32 page adventures.

Art and color versus black and white should be described as well, but price is a budgeting consideration many do consider. Price per page is not that important a consideration compared to value of the product content and overall product price, but there can be a use for it.
 

voadam;

By your own admission then, its only of use AFTER being sure the products are of equal quality...

And remember, the page count and price are both available for you in the little boxes at the end of the reviews anyway.

Plus, the PPP metric assumes you pay the SRP...

The ESDs are a superbly bad comparison; you are buying NO physical pages (you would need to add printing costs to the price of the ESD, should you want hard copy) and these products have already covered their (hard copy) production costs (hence they are at a flat rate)
 

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