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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7725026" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>No, because your definition is limited to the special case where the longsword was balanced and viable in the first place, which is not necessarily true. In order for your definition to apply, fighters with a d8 longsword would need to be balanced against wizards, such that elevating the d8 to a d12 (or whatever) would raise the over-all power level of the game. You haven't established that, though.</p><p></p><p>In order for my definition to be true, it would <em>only</em> need to be the case that the d12 longsword is better than the d8 longsword in every meaningful way, which is not controversial at all.</p><p></p><p>Not to double- or triple-quote the same source, but tvtropes defines Power Creep as: <em>"A term used in any kind of multi-player game (including Video Games, Collectible Card Game, and Tabletop Games) to describe the process in which newly-added-content can be played along with the old-content, but with the new content being far more powerful/useful in every sense. This process leaves old-content completely worthless, save for a few exceptions and for Cherry Tapping."</em> </p><p></p><p>Nobody would use a d8 longsword if a d12 longsword was available, and the name we give to that phenomenon is called Power Creep. And yes, it <em>does</em> tend to have a negative connotation, because it <em>can</em> easily unbalance (or otherwise ruin) a fun game. It doesn't <em>have to</em>, though, as the enduring popularity of Magic will attest; the game is still alive and well <em>in spite</em> of obvious Power Creep.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7725026, member: 6775031"] No, because your definition is limited to the special case where the longsword was balanced and viable in the first place, which is not necessarily true. In order for your definition to apply, fighters with a d8 longsword would need to be balanced against wizards, such that elevating the d8 to a d12 (or whatever) would raise the over-all power level of the game. You haven't established that, though. In order for my definition to be true, it would [I]only[/I] need to be the case that the d12 longsword is better than the d8 longsword in every meaningful way, which is not controversial at all. Not to double- or triple-quote the same source, but tvtropes defines Power Creep as: [I]"A term used in any kind of multi-player game (including Video Games, Collectible Card Game, and Tabletop Games) to describe the process in which newly-added-content can be played along with the old-content, but with the new content being far more powerful/useful in every sense. This process leaves old-content completely worthless, save for a few exceptions and for Cherry Tapping."[/I] Nobody would use a d8 longsword if a d12 longsword was available, and the name we give to that phenomenon is called Power Creep. And yes, it [I]does[/I] tend to have a negative connotation, because it [I]can[/I] easily unbalance (or otherwise ruin) a fun game. It doesn't [I]have to[/I], though, as the enduring popularity of Magic will attest; the game is still alive and well [I]in spite[/I] of obvious Power Creep. [/QUOTE]
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