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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 4716837" data-attributes="member: 20323">I really hope DMG2 addresses the science of power creation, even though there seems to be a fair bit of art. For the parts that can be codified, someone in the house rules forum started to break down the power creation guidelines. I forget who and my search-fu was weak today <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />  I hope they take credit for their work![sblock=power creation guidelines]MeleeStandard Action, Melee WeaponTarget: One CreatureAttack: Primary Attribute Modifier (PAM) vs ACHit: 1W + PAM damageRangedStandard Action, Ranged WeaponTarget: One CreatureAttack: Primary Attribute Modifier (PAM) vs ACHit: 1W + PAM damageCloseStandard Action, Close Burst 1 Target: Each creature in burstAttack: Primary Attribute Modifier (PAM) vs ACHit: 1W + PAM damageArea Standard Action, Area burst 1 within 10 squaresTarget: Each creature is burstAttack: Primary Attribute Modifier (PAM) vs ReflexHit: 1d6 + PAM damage2) Each power type has a different power modifier sum. Power modifiers may be taken more than once and the effects are cummulative.At-will powers: 1Encounter powers: 2 in heroic, 5 in paragon, 7 in epicDaily power: 4 in heroic, 7 in paragon, 9 in epicSample Power Modifers-2: No PAM damage on Hit-1: Add damage type (fire, necrotic, poison)-1: Remove Weapon or Implement Keyword0: Attack targets Fortitude or Will instead of Reflex0: Ranged 5 instead of Ranged weapon0: Hit deal 1d6 damage instead of 1W0: Add damage type (cold, electric, thunder)1: Blast or Wall instead of burst1: Hit also pushes the target 1 square1: Hit also knocks the target prone 1: Hit deals an additional 1W1: Hit or Miss also causes minor ailment (dazed, slowed, grants combat advantage) until the end of your next turn1: Hit or Miss causes onging damage 51: Hit or Miss grants target -2 penalty to one defense or attack rolls until end of your next turn1: Hit or Miss grants target -SAM penalty to one defense or attack rolls until end of your next turn1: Increase damage dice one size1: Increase burst or area size by 21: Increase Range by 5 squares1: Ailment lasts until save ends instead or end of turn1: Hit deals Secondary Attribute damage 1: Add damage type (radiant, acid, psychic)1: Attack is Reliable1: +2 to the attack roll1: Attack deal half damage on Miss2: Attack targets Reflex instead of AC2: Hit or Miss also causes major ailment (stunned, immobilized, blinded) until the end of your next turn2: Additional 1W attack after primary attack[/sblock]A couple points to consider:Conditions (least to worst)Deafened, Slowed, granting Combat Advantage, Prone, Immobilized, Dazed, Weakened, Blinded, Restrained, Petrified (assuming it is as temporary as any other effect), Stunned, Dominated, Unconscious.Granularity within tiersThe system above doesn't take into account any difference between, say level 1 and level 7 attack powers. It seems like level 7 should be more powerful, right? There was discussion in the original thread that this assumption might not be true. Personally I think adding some granularity would be helpful...maybe I'll do that.Scaling for repeated power modifiersIt's pretty clear that there should be an exponential or at least an increasing cost for repeatedly adding, say a +1[W] to power's damage. Also, there was discussion about dividing up scaling according to three groups, but I can't remember what those were.Hope that gives you a good start. If you come up with any other tools, let us know!</blockquote>

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