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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6998737" data-attributes="member: 29398">Philosophical in that a (stereotypical) powergamer will often approach the creation of any character with a mindset of where there's any conflict between optimization and characterization/personality/backstory, optimization will always prevail and the rest will just have to bend to suit.  A role-player will sacrifice some optimization to suit the other stuff.Philosophical in that a (stereotypical) powergamer might be in it to win it - the approach is to be the best and outshine the rest...or to be the best and then be annoyed when others at the table don't follow suit.  A role-player might be in it to be the most entertaining, perhaps, but character takes precedence over numbers.Philosophical in that a (stereotypical) powergamer might be getting their character (build) ideas, tips and tricks from char-ops boards.  A role-player needs not these things and may or may not know they even exist.Philosophical in that a (stereotypical) powergamer might see the game as a competitive arms race vs. an untrusted or unknown DM.  A role-player either trusts the DM to more or less scale things to what the party can handle or (in a sandbox-type game) trusts his-her own judgement on whether the character or party has bitten off more than it/they can chew.So, yes: philosophical.Lan-"that said, every now and then a role-player might stumble on to a reasonably good build by sheer luck; as has happened to me once or twice"-efan</blockquote>

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