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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3759882" data-attributes="member: 10177">C&C does use an "opposed roll". IT just isn't done with each character making a roll and the highest roll wins. Instead the HD of the "opponent" is used to modify the final TN.So the WIS check of the guard will be modified by the HD of the thief, since the Thief's skill directly effects how silently they move.So opposed roles are not done in the same manner as 3E, but it is "opposed" because the HD/LVL of the opponent is used as a modifier for the CL.So in your thief/guard example, say the guard is 3 HD, WIS Prime, and the Thief is 4, DEX PRime and has a 14 (+1). The final TN will be TN 12 + 5, due to the Thief's LVL and +1 DEX bonus. So the guard must roll better than a 17 on a D20, and gets to add his HD to his roll. If he had a WIS bonus he could add that as well.This assumes there are no other factors. Such as maybe the guard laid out broken glass in certain areas, or caltrops, etc... If such things were done the CK can handle it a couple of ways. Either make the Thief roll to successfully bypass the obstacles, or reflect this added difficulty for the Thief by giving the guard an additional +2 bonus to his check.So to say that C&C doesn't use an opposed roll is technically wrong, they just don't use an opposed roll in the same manner as 3E. The HD is used as the "opposition" . For further clarification on what I am talking about you can read paragraphs 9 and 10 of "Attributes & The Game" on page 109 to 110 of the PH (second printing).Unless of course you understood all of this and I was wrong to think you may not have. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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