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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7267252" data-attributes="member: 12731">Sorry for interrupting your ramblings there Tony, but what it boils down to is this:While 3e might ultimately fail, they at least tried.Not only doesn't 5e not try, it wants to be patted on the back for it as well.Not only does 5e simply give up on trying to have an uptime gold outlet, they even try to sell this inability, this non-starter, as a good thing. [emoji20] Sorry for the interruption. I just couldn't have you mince the words so they both look much the same, when one tries and the other does not.When one gets flak for trying while the other wants applause for selling us nothing.Sent from my C6603 using <a href="http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205" target="_blank">EN World mobile app</a></blockquote>