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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 3753515" data-attributes="member: 1003">Yeah, but I think the new paradigm is &quot;every Role matters.&quot; I'm pretty sure 4e won't solve your problems then.&nbsp; The only two Tanks in the 4e PHB are the Fighter and Paladin, so you're sill out of luck.&nbsp; The Cleric won't be able to be a Tank stand-in any more either, if I read Andy above correctly.Actually, I'm pretty sure 4e will NOT allow you to function minus someone in a particular role.&nbsp; Andy was ranting against the Cleric's ability to plat at Tank, which suggest that the new Cleric is a pure &quot;Leader&quot; (whatever that means).I think I'd prefer 4e when the route of Acana Evolved, and spread the ability to &quot;stand in&quot; for various roles around a little more.&nbsp; Half the classes in that game had some healing for instance, so there was no &quot;Cleric dependency.&quot;&nbsp; Every class was unique and cool, but they were also all disposable.&nbsp; I think 4e is still gonna have the problem where someone's gonna have to play the Leader/Tank/Controller/Striker (whatever).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 3753515, member: 1003"] Yeah, but I think the new paradigm is "every Role matters." I'm pretty sure 4e won't solve your problems then. The only two Tanks in the 4e PHB are the Fighter and Paladin, so you're sill out of luck. The Cleric won't be able to be a Tank stand-in any more either, if I read Andy above correctly. Actually, I'm pretty sure 4e will NOT allow you to function minus someone in a particular role. Andy was ranting against the Cleric's ability to plat at Tank, which suggest that the new Cleric is a pure "Leader" (whatever that means). I think I'd prefer 4e when the route of Acana Evolved, and spread the ability to "stand in" for various roles around a little more. Half the classes in that game had some healing for instance, so there was no "Cleric dependency." Every class was unique and cool, but they were also all disposable. I think 4e is still gonna have the problem where someone's gonna have to play the Leader/Tank/Controller/Striker (whatever). [/QUOTE]

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