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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 3757337" data-attributes="member: 15999">As I've said in other threads, MarauderX's campaign has this as the core group:Drd20Rog16/Clr3Rog7/Ran2/Shadowdancer10Rog3/Sor6/AT9 (LA +1 race)Brb1/Brd14/Seeker of the Song4In that group, the bard is the best melee combatant (the rogue comes close).&nbsp; He has a ton of HP (due to the druid's Craft Wondrous Item), excellent saves, songs that boost his own attacks and those of the party members, and feats like Leap Attack.&nbsp; Sure, a pure barbarian would have a higher BAB.&nbsp; But the bard in that role is still good enough to destroy opponents of higher CR than his level in melee, as he routinely does.&nbsp; Isn't that the benchmark?&nbsp; Not how he'd do relative to a hypothetical fighter, but how he actually fills the role in the game?&nbsp; When you factor in Inspire Greatness and Inspire Courage, the difference between him and a pure barbarian is negligible.&nbsp; The saves, particularly Will saves, are such a big advantage that they more than offset any minor loss of combat power.&nbsp; I'm a big fan of well-rounded characters, and this bard is exactly that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 3757337, member: 15999"] As I've said in other threads, MarauderX's campaign has this as the core group: Drd20 Rog16/Clr3 Rog7/Ran2/Shadowdancer10 Rog3/Sor6/AT9 (LA +1 race) Brb1/Brd14/Seeker of the Song4 In that group, the bard is the best melee combatant (the rogue comes close). He has a ton of HP (due to the druid's Craft Wondrous Item), excellent saves, songs that boost his own attacks and those of the party members, and feats like Leap Attack. Sure, a pure barbarian would have a higher BAB. But the bard in that role is still good enough to destroy opponents of higher CR than his level in melee, as he routinely does. Isn't that the benchmark? Not how he'd do relative to a hypothetical fighter, but how he actually fills the role in the game? When you factor in Inspire Greatness and Inspire Courage, the difference between him and a pure barbarian is negligible. The saves, particularly Will saves, are such a big advantage that they more than offset any minor loss of combat power. I'm a big fan of well-rounded characters, and this bard is exactly that. [/QUOTE]

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