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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1126794" data-attributes="member: 1656">They don't mean the exact same thing.A. Longsword.&nbsp; Base damage 1d8.B. Longsword with special ability - double base damage.&nbsp; 2d8.C. Longsword with special ability - add double base damage.&nbsp; 1d8 + 2d8 = 3d8.Critical with A: 2d8.Critical with B: 3d8. (1d8 doubled twice)Critical with C: 4d8. (1d8 doubled, plus 2d8 expressed as bonus dice and therefore not multiplied on a critical)&quot;Double&quot; is a multiplier.&nbsp; It is calculated by &quot;adding x, where x equals the unmodified amount&quot;... but it is a multiplier.&quot;Add double&quot; is not a multiplier in the longsword example.In the case of Power Lunge, &quot;add double&quot; is not a multiplier if you consider your usual Str bonus to be included in &quot;normal damage&quot;.&nbsp; (Which leads to 1d12+14 with a greataxe.)You don't, as far as I can tell, so again we go back to the wording.With a longsword, you add 1x or 1.5x Str bonus to damage, dependent on whether you use it in one or two hands.With a longsword and Power Lunge, you add 2x Str bonus to damage, regardless of whether you use it in one or two hands.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1126794, member: 1656"] They don't mean the exact same thing. A. Longsword. Base damage 1d8. B. Longsword with special ability - double base damage. 2d8. C. Longsword with special ability - add double base damage. 1d8 + 2d8 = 3d8. Critical with A: 2d8. Critical with B: 3d8. (1d8 doubled twice) Critical with C: 4d8. (1d8 doubled, plus 2d8 expressed as bonus dice and therefore not multiplied on a critical) "Double" is a multiplier. It is calculated by "adding x, where x equals the unmodified amount"... but it is a multiplier. "Add double" is not a multiplier in the longsword example. In the case of Power Lunge, "add double" is not a multiplier [i]if[/i] you consider your usual Str bonus to be included in "normal damage". (Which leads to 1d12+14 with a greataxe.) You don't, as far as I can tell, so again we go back to the wording. With a longsword, you add 1x or 1.5x Str bonus to damage, [i]dependent[/i] on whether you use it in one or two hands. With a longsword and Power Lunge, you add 2x Str bonus to damage, [i]regardless[/i] of whether you use it in one or two hands. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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