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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 2061713" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>Well, he must be a worse king than a king who's higher in level, all other things being equal. He will lose at Bluff/Sense Motive oppositions, he won't be as good at Diplomacy and he has a lower Will save. Oh and he's probably dumber, or at least lower in Knowledge skills. Ergo, people don't trust him as much, he's a poorer judge of character, less loved, easier to sway against his own interests and has to rely more on what other people tell him.</p><p></p><p>So yes, a king of low levels IS a "bad" king, relative to kings of higher levels. This is fact.</p><p></p><p>When you're playing D&D, you're accepting that 20th-level fighters exist. 20th-level wizards. 20th-level clerics. There are certain corollaries to this acceptance, one of which the rulers of this world will be high level individuals.</p><p></p><p>If YOU were a 20th-level wizard, and some 2nd-level king tried to enforce his will upon you, how well do you think that would work? I mean, you don't have to punch him in the nose, you can just leave. And EVERYONE knows that. They know that their king can't control you. King loses authority. Loses respect. Loses power. People start thinking, "What if that wizard hadn't been so nice? What if he'd been a bad guy? How's our king going to protect us from someone like that? Maybe we ought to find somebody who CAN..."</p><p></p><p>Now, you're probably a nice guy and all, which is great, but what about those not-so-nice guys? They don't need to be cackling necromancers of EVIL, just folks less willing to get pushed around. They're just going to take over, of course. It happens with astonishing regularity in OUR history, and we don't HAVE 20th-level fighters in this world.</p><p></p><p>Eventually, all the 2nd-level kings are going to get replaced by tough guys. This is the nature of the world.</p><p></p><p>In D&D-land, all the rulers will be high level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 2061713, member: 812"] Well, he must be a worse king than a king who's higher in level, all other things being equal. He will lose at Bluff/Sense Motive oppositions, he won't be as good at Diplomacy and he has a lower Will save. Oh and he's probably dumber, or at least lower in Knowledge skills. Ergo, people don't trust him as much, he's a poorer judge of character, less loved, easier to sway against his own interests and has to rely more on what other people tell him. So yes, a king of low levels IS a "bad" king, relative to kings of higher levels. This is fact. When you're playing D&D, you're accepting that 20th-level fighters exist. 20th-level wizards. 20th-level clerics. There are certain corollaries to this acceptance, one of which the rulers of this world will be high level individuals. If YOU were a 20th-level wizard, and some 2nd-level king tried to enforce his will upon you, how well do you think that would work? I mean, you don't have to punch him in the nose, you can just leave. And EVERYONE knows that. They know that their king can't control you. King loses authority. Loses respect. Loses power. People start thinking, "What if that wizard hadn't been so nice? What if he'd been a bad guy? How's our king going to protect us from someone like that? Maybe we ought to find somebody who CAN..." Now, you're probably a nice guy and all, which is great, but what about those not-so-nice guys? They don't need to be cackling necromancers of EVIL, just folks less willing to get pushed around. They're just going to take over, of course. It happens with astonishing regularity in OUR history, and we don't HAVE 20th-level fighters in this world. Eventually, all the 2nd-level kings are going to get replaced by tough guys. This is the nature of the world. In D&D-land, all the rulers will be high level. [/QUOTE]
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