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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1689850" data-attributes="member: 707">There's been a lot of response to this statement, though all of it has been constructive, so hopefully you aren't feeling put-upon. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Personally, this player reminds me of myself.  I'd set a goal like that.  The point isn't the power itself, really, (at least for me,) but rather attaining a certain stature in the world.  Have you ever watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid?  It's an old Western with Robert Redford.  At one point the Sundance Kid is playing cards, and another man calls him a cheater and challenges him to a duel.  But when he learns that his opponent is the Sundance Kid, he gets scared and backs down, because he knows he'll lose the duel.  It's a great scene, and the duel never takes place, specifically because the name "Sundance Kid" means something.  I'd imagine your player wants that same kind of fame in the game world.And it's not like you can't challenge such a character.  If your character is 12th-level, there can easily be a 13th-level swordfighter around the corner.  But the point is, most of the NPCs the PC meets in a tavern won't be that 13th-level guy, and that's a fun position to be in.Anyway, enough of that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Personally, I don't really consider powergaming to be linked to role-playing at all.  They are neither beneficial nor detrimental to each other.  You can have a smackdown build and still play the PC with a great amount of personality and character.  You can also have an unfocused character build, and play the PC just as badly.The only time powergaming may lead to problems is if some players are adept, and others not-so-adept, because then you wind up with a power inbalance.  But in those situations, I usually like to encourage the good powergamers to help out those who aren't so skilled with character builds.  Just as I'd want good role-players to encourage and stimulate other players to whom RP may not come as naturally.</blockquote>

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