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<blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 3704426" data-attributes="member: 27186"><p>This particular player is not happy with his characters survivability, and he doesnt seem to care enough to be bothered with an ingame exploration of it.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would go ahead and pray to my deity for guidance on why I am so squishy, and once it was revealed that I needed to learn to channel my rage and toughen my body, I'd take a level of barbarian, to show the god's influence.</p><p></p><p>Well, actually, since this is NOT powergaming, a level of barbarian is ALWAYS worse than a level of cleric, this is just an example of a player who doesnt seem to care much about RP, and has no clue how to optimize his character.</p><p></p><p>Powergaming gets used a lot around here, but most people have no idea what it means.</p><p></p><p>Try this on:</p><p></p><p>Half-Dragon Sorcerer</p><p>Thri-Kreen Psion</p><p>Half-Fiend Wizard</p><p></p><p>and compare to:</p><p></p><p>Human Cleric</p><p>Human Wizard</p><p>Human Druid</p><p></p><p>Three of these six characters are far more optimized than the other 3. If you said, OMG! HALF-FIEND and HALF-DRAGONS are so overpowered! You munchkin! Then you just failed the test.</p><p></p><p>There is a difference between powergaming and being a lousy player. In fact, I'd posit its a polar opposite.</p><p></p><p>I *AM* a powergamer. I dont play suboptimal characters. I don't even feel guilty about it. I wouldnt touch a barbarian level on a cleric with a ten foot pole. I might take divine metamagic though, and the travel domain. </p><p></p><p>Further, being a powergamer does not prevent a backstory, nor does it prevent a logical progression to a character. If I plan out my pirate from level 1 to 20, you can be sure I have looked ahead to what I want to do, and where I want him/her to go from the start. THIS DOES NOT MEAN it isnt optimized to the nine hells and back, it simply means I care about the bonuses, AND the roleplay. I also care enough to know the rules and to pay attention to whats good and what is not.</p><p></p><p>So, in essence, it sounds like your player is lazy, and not terribly able with the rules. It also sounds like he doesnt care about RP.</p><p></p><p>NONE of these are powergamer traits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seeten, post: 3704426, member: 27186"] This particular player is not happy with his characters survivability, and he doesnt seem to care enough to be bothered with an ingame exploration of it. Personally, I would go ahead and pray to my deity for guidance on why I am so squishy, and once it was revealed that I needed to learn to channel my rage and toughen my body, I'd take a level of barbarian, to show the god's influence. Well, actually, since this is NOT powergaming, a level of barbarian is ALWAYS worse than a level of cleric, this is just an example of a player who doesnt seem to care much about RP, and has no clue how to optimize his character. Powergaming gets used a lot around here, but most people have no idea what it means. Try this on: Half-Dragon Sorcerer Thri-Kreen Psion Half-Fiend Wizard and compare to: Human Cleric Human Wizard Human Druid Three of these six characters are far more optimized than the other 3. If you said, OMG! HALF-FIEND and HALF-DRAGONS are so overpowered! You munchkin! Then you just failed the test. There is a difference between powergaming and being a lousy player. In fact, I'd posit its a polar opposite. I *AM* a powergamer. I dont play suboptimal characters. I don't even feel guilty about it. I wouldnt touch a barbarian level on a cleric with a ten foot pole. I might take divine metamagic though, and the travel domain. Further, being a powergamer does not prevent a backstory, nor does it prevent a logical progression to a character. If I plan out my pirate from level 1 to 20, you can be sure I have looked ahead to what I want to do, and where I want him/her to go from the start. THIS DOES NOT MEAN it isnt optimized to the nine hells and back, it simply means I care about the bonuses, AND the roleplay. I also care enough to know the rules and to pay attention to whats good and what is not. So, in essence, it sounds like your player is lazy, and not terribly able with the rules. It also sounds like he doesnt care about RP. NONE of these are powergamer traits. [/QUOTE]
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