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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5556995" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I don't think a dream form can manipulate items, so it probably can't set of traps, etc. He can probably make certain Arcana checks, but it would be up to you if he can for example detect magic or certain things like that.</p><p></p><p>Maybe a bit less combat focus is in order. Combat tweaking your character is all well and good, but if the others are putting more emphasis on say skills and such then it may be that he'll find he's not so optimum all-around. Though honestly his character looks fairly flexible.</p><p></p><p>This is all a pretty classic issue of divergent player focus and goals. Maybe get player C to point out some things the others can do. Often exchanging one feat for a similar one that is better can help a good bit, or using a slightly different weapon or picking a power or two that synergize better with the build, etc. That might put them on a more even footing, give the other players a bit of understanding of what works well in 4e, and leverage the optimizer's interest in that aspect of the game. </p><p></p><p>Starting at level 1 is really a good idea too. It is a lot harder to tweak your character up when you build it organically like that, and starting in paragon is both technically challenging and catering to that player at the expense of the others. Spin it as "it will be more fun if you earn it" or something (depends on the player how you spin that).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5556995, member: 82106"] I don't think a dream form can manipulate items, so it probably can't set of traps, etc. He can probably make certain Arcana checks, but it would be up to you if he can for example detect magic or certain things like that. Maybe a bit less combat focus is in order. Combat tweaking your character is all well and good, but if the others are putting more emphasis on say skills and such then it may be that he'll find he's not so optimum all-around. Though honestly his character looks fairly flexible. This is all a pretty classic issue of divergent player focus and goals. Maybe get player C to point out some things the others can do. Often exchanging one feat for a similar one that is better can help a good bit, or using a slightly different weapon or picking a power or two that synergize better with the build, etc. That might put them on a more even footing, give the other players a bit of understanding of what works well in 4e, and leverage the optimizer's interest in that aspect of the game. Starting at level 1 is really a good idea too. It is a lot harder to tweak your character up when you build it organically like that, and starting in paragon is both technically challenging and catering to that player at the expense of the others. Spin it as "it will be more fun if you earn it" or something (depends on the player how you spin that). [/QUOTE]
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