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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Methos of Aundair" data-source="post: 1662969" data-attributes="member: 21764">First off, let me apologize for starting this thread without first searching to see if there was one already started. I am new to this board and failed to think of this. My apologies.     Secondly, in regards to not being able to cast the higher level spells as a multiclassed character, I would think that at the time of character creation the player would have thought of this beforehand. Let’s say I want to make a multiclassed character and go the route of Arcane Trickster, Bladesinger, Spellsword, or whatever. My main focus isn’t primarily spells, granted I’m not saying I don’t want access to the higher level spells, but when I created the character I should have known or realized I may never have access to them due to my choice of multiclassing. The fact that I may never cast Wish, Permanency, Heal, and the other high level spells  shouldn’t be considered as a penalty to being multiclassed, the player should know that when he/she made their choice to play a multiclassed character. That was the players’ choice. And typically when a player multiclassed it is usually for the versatility of spellcasting they wish to add to their character. Such as a ftr/wiz, rog/sor, clr/ftr, and so on. Usually their primary focus isn’t spellcasting, though this isn’t always the case.     Take for instance the Arcane Trickster in my campaign that I have already mentioned. His primary focus is the accumulation of wealth, in whatever means, and he tends to use his spellcasting abilities to benefit this goal.  That is not to say he doesn’t use his spells offensively, this is the case versus opponents he doesn’t wish to move into melee with or when there is a lot of lesser opponents he can blast. He doesn’t complain about his lesser casting ability, it doesn’t seem to bother him. Lack of more gold though does.@Pax  “   but you claimed the multiclass selection occurred so that the character could cast shield, not mage armor. “     Reread what you quoted me as saying, it specifically says they take one level of sorcerer so they can cast shield and mage armor, no where did I say they could only cast shield.@Hypersmurf     Though your make a good point with your Weapon Finesse example, it isn’t the same. The Practiced Spellcasting feat gives a lot more bonuses than just the +4 to SR. It adjusts damage, duration, range, and other effects related to caster level. Using your example in comparison would be like saying Weapon Finesse also changes the damage of the weapon, BAB, and size. The Practiced Spellcaster feat has benefits that resemble Spell Penetration, Extend Spell, Heighten Spell, Enlarge Spell, and probably a few others I can’t think of right now. Weapon Finesse deals only in which ability you use, not multiple benefits that could be gained by several other feats. This one feat grants the player benefits in multiple ways, and that is way too much in my opinion.     One last time, I do not feel that not having access to the higher level spells is a penalty to a multiclassed character, that is a choice the player had to make during character creation. If the player sought access to higher level spells (7th-9th) than a pure spellcasting class should have been a more viable option.</blockquote>

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