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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 1663464" data-attributes="member: 537">And they still suck.The only spell worth keeping there for the long term is shield. Everything else becomes irrelevant by about 10th level or so.Which, in a game as devoted to niche specialisation as D&amp;D, is pretty much tantamount to saying that character is crap.The measure of interest, most of the time, is not individual flexibility. It's group flexibility, meaning what the _party as a whole_ can do. From that point of view, a party with a multiclassed spellcaster is very often less flexible than if that character was replaced by a specialised one. It doesn't matter how many times you can cast expeditious retreat, lesser restoration or invisibility, it doesn't make up for not being able to cast teleport, greater restoration, or greater invisibility. Even if a party already has all these bases covered, it never hurts to have more people who can do the job.It appears to have escaped your attention that caster level affects more than just SR checks.And you do. You give up higher level spells. Being able to cast a zillion invisibility spells just doesn't really make up for not casting greater invis.Clr/ftr is one of the multiclass spellcasting combos that probably doesn't suck as hard as most, due to the strong synergy between cleric and fighter. You can't say that about most others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 1663464, member: 537"] And they still suck. The only spell worth keeping there for the long term is shield. Everything else becomes irrelevant by about 10th level or so. Which, in a game as devoted to niche specialisation as D&D, is pretty much tantamount to saying that character is crap. The measure of interest, most of the time, is not individual flexibility. It's group flexibility, meaning what the _party as a whole_ can do. From that point of view, a party with a multiclassed spellcaster is very often less flexible than if that character was replaced by a specialised one. It doesn't matter how many times you can cast expeditious retreat, lesser restoration or invisibility, it doesn't make up for not being able to cast teleport, greater restoration, or greater invisibility. Even if a party already has all these bases covered, it never hurts to have more people who can do the job. It appears to have escaped your attention that caster level affects more than just SR checks. And you do. You give up higher level spells. Being able to cast a zillion invisibility spells just doesn't really make up for not casting greater invis. Clr/ftr is one of the multiclass spellcasting combos that probably doesn't suck as hard as most, due to the strong synergy between cleric and fighter. You can't say that about most others. [/QUOTE]

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