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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1664458" data-attributes="member: 1757">Thanee: I tend to be on the side of feeling like the MT is plenty weak; however, there's a bunch of debate on both sides about whether the class isn't in fact actually quite tough at higher levels. There's at least one poster who nearly bit my head off for daring to suggest that the MT had problems beyond being unable to beat SR! (See <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90002&amp;page=4&amp;pp=20&amp;highlight=mystic+theurge" target="_blank">this thread</a> , starting at the bottom of p.4). (I must say that if your MT player took two spell focus feats, he wasn't quite going the right route, unless it was toward archmage!) However, I think that PS goes a bit too far the other way when combined with the MT. The MT may be all about spellcasting, but it's all about versatile spellcasting as opposed to specialized spellcasting. Of course, that's a weak archetype, since D&amp;D rewards specialization over versatility in the four-person party context. However, I think that allowing the MT to match a single-classed spellcaster in caster level is a bit powerful, specifically because it allows an MT to neglect his Wis score, max out his Int score, and use the wizard save-or-dies along with the cleric and wizard buffs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1664458, member: 1757"] Thanee: I tend to be on the side of feeling like the MT is plenty weak; however, there's a bunch of debate on both sides about whether the class isn't in fact actually quite tough at higher levels. There's at least one poster who nearly bit my head off for daring to suggest that the MT had problems beyond being unable to beat SR! (See [URL=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90002&page=4&pp=20&highlight=mystic+theurge]this thread[/URL] , starting at the bottom of p.4). (I must say that if your MT player took two spell focus feats, he wasn't quite going the right route, unless it was toward archmage!) However, I think that PS goes a bit too far the other way when combined with the MT. The MT may be all about spellcasting, but it's all about [i]versatile[/i] spellcasting as opposed to [i]specialized[/i] spellcasting. Of course, that's a weak archetype, since D&D rewards specialization over versatility in the four-person party context. However, I think that allowing the MT to match a single-classed spellcaster in caster level is a bit powerful, specifically because it allows an MT to neglect his Wis score, max out his Int score, and use the wizard save-or-dies along with the cleric and wizard buffs. [/QUOTE]

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