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Practitioner of The Hala (Commando Unarmed Combat)
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<blockquote data-quote="Dagredhel" data-source="post: 371046" data-attributes="member: 3421"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Practitioner of The Hala (Commando Unarmed Combat)</strong></p><p></p><p>Hey Ace. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you (I'm not online all that often.)</p><p></p><p>Here are my reactions to your responses to my suggestions.</p><p></p><p>1. Characters should be a minimum of 5th level to gain levels in the PrC, and that is if they take the optimal path to meeting its requirements, i.e., choosing the class or class combo that allows them to fulfill the PrC's requirements the quickest. Requiring a BAB of 5+ will do this, as will requiring feats or skill ranks that would take that many levels to acquire.</p><p></p><p>I know you like those attack of opportunity related feats, but consider Close-Quarters Fighting from Sword and Fist, which seems to fit your conception nicely.</p><p></p><p></p><p>2. I'd be curious to hear your reasoning in assigning class skills, without which I don't have the basis for comment. But I do think that dropping the skill points to 2 per level is appropriate for the system.</p><p></p><p>3. </p><p></p><p>I think I need a clarification: Can a Hala Practitioner sacrifice an AoO to use the Killing Blow damage bonus ONLY when he would actually have the opportunity to actually use the potential AoO, OR even when the potential AoO would otherwise go to waste because no enemy triggers it?</p><p></p><p>If the former is the case, then the additional damage requires a real trade off (the lost opportunity to attack using the AoO.) But it doesn't make much sense. In effect, the Hala Practitioner would be doing extra damage against a foe when forgoing attacks against a second foe, but not when only confronted with a single possible adversary!</p><p></p><p>In the later case, where potential AoO would go unused anyways much if not most of the time, the 'trade off' would usually be something for nothing (+1d4 damage for an AoO that the character can't use anyways.)</p><p></p><p>As a game mechanic, I'd suggest its not worth the trouble.</p><p></p><p>Compare Dirty Fighting, which gives the same damage bonus, but requires a full round attack.</p><p></p><p>The Duelist does get +1d6 with his Precise Strike, but only with a one handed impaling weapon--- which can be taken away.</p><p></p><p>I would strongly suggest considering an improvement in the Hala Practitioner's base unarmed combat damage, something similar to a monk's. 1d6 rather than 1d3 as a first level ability would seem very appropriate to the PrC.</p><p></p><p>I've run out of time today, but I'll get back to you as soon as possible with the rest of my feedback.</p><p></p><p>You're flavor text is great, by the way!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dagredhel, post: 371046, member: 3421"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Practitioner of The Hala (Commando Unarmed Combat)[/b] Hey Ace. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you (I'm not online all that often.) Here are my reactions to your responses to my suggestions. 1. Characters should be a minimum of 5th level to gain levels in the PrC, and that is if they take the optimal path to meeting its requirements, i.e., choosing the class or class combo that allows them to fulfill the PrC's requirements the quickest. Requiring a BAB of 5+ will do this, as will requiring feats or skill ranks that would take that many levels to acquire. I know you like those attack of opportunity related feats, but consider Close-Quarters Fighting from Sword and Fist, which seems to fit your conception nicely. 2. I'd be curious to hear your reasoning in assigning class skills, without which I don't have the basis for comment. But I do think that dropping the skill points to 2 per level is appropriate for the system. 3. I think I need a clarification: Can a Hala Practitioner sacrifice an AoO to use the Killing Blow damage bonus ONLY when he would actually have the opportunity to actually use the potential AoO, OR even when the potential AoO would otherwise go to waste because no enemy triggers it? If the former is the case, then the additional damage requires a real trade off (the lost opportunity to attack using the AoO.) But it doesn't make much sense. In effect, the Hala Practitioner would be doing extra damage against a foe when forgoing attacks against a second foe, but not when only confronted with a single possible adversary! In the later case, where potential AoO would go unused anyways much if not most of the time, the 'trade off' would usually be something for nothing (+1d4 damage for an AoO that the character can't use anyways.) As a game mechanic, I'd suggest its not worth the trouble. Compare Dirty Fighting, which gives the same damage bonus, but requires a full round attack. The Duelist does get +1d6 with his Precise Strike, but only with a one handed impaling weapon--- which can be taken away. I would strongly suggest considering an improvement in the Hala Practitioner's base unarmed combat damage, something similar to a monk's. 1d6 rather than 1d3 as a first level ability would seem very appropriate to the PrC. I've run out of time today, but I'll get back to you as soon as possible with the rest of my feedback. You're flavor text is great, by the way! [/QUOTE]
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