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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 4576886" data-attributes="member: 5724">Sales figures and "Is it popular enough so I can find a group" are two very different things, IMO. The first is unimportant for fans if the second is experientially true. I don't suspect that people who want to play 4e are having any harder a time finding a 4e group then people back in 2001 who wanted to play 3e had any difficulty in finding a 3e gaming group. Moreover, unless one has the context within which to place an actual sales figure, that number is useless. Fans don't know the business and can't place numbers in context.In my experience, many fans are only interested in sales numbers so they can use them to beat up other fans with. Many people seem to find a sense of identity, importance and superiority in knowing that the game they enjoy is selling better than that *other* game. Just like some fans find the same thing by playing "indie" games just because they're indie or other fans take pleasure in the fact that a new edition of a game isn't selling as well as the edition they like did.It's because of people like the above, that I generally don't talk business with fans. Many gamers aren't like the above, but quite a few are and they tend to be very vocal and seem almost bent on spoiling the hobby for those of us who just want to play.joe b.</blockquote>