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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4302283" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>1) At first, I said "I don't see the problem."</p><p>2) Then, edbonny responded by where he found the problem.</p><p>3) I thus acknowledged what he said, and replied, "I understand that you are confused, but I'm still sure how those can trip someone up," and then went on to say that perhaps it's a complete disconnect; if I think in a different way than you do, then it may be impossible for me to follow your thought train to see where the problem is. I even said that I have met other long-time gamers who are confused with how the 3e bard works, to illustrate that confusion with the class density is nothing new.</p><p>4) Then Spatula then replies to say that the confusion perhaps lies in people reading through from the start of the chapter to the end straight, and how that the number of similar abilities, especially how they relate to the rules (pushing, pulling, weakening - the significance can be lost on those who haven't fully digested those conditions and their significance) may not see the relevance of power differences. </p><p>5) Finally, I replied that makes sense; the disconnect is coming from the way in which I read the books, and assumed that many others read it the same way: not start to finish, but jumping around, looking at what is relevant to your interests first, contrasting and comparing, and skipping whole sections. Reading start to finish would indeed be <strong>boring</strong>.</p><p></p><p>That, in my mind, is a <strong>conversation</strong>.</p><p></p><p>If I was repeating the same thing and not saying anything else, you'd have a case. But I see myself contributing to the conversation, which leads me to...</p><p></p><p></p><p>How about since you're not a mod, if you think that I'm threadcrapping, you report me and see what a Mod has to say?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4302283, member: 54846"] 1) At first, I said "I don't see the problem." 2) Then, edbonny responded by where he found the problem. 3) I thus acknowledged what he said, and replied, "I understand that you are confused, but I'm still sure how those can trip someone up," and then went on to say that perhaps it's a complete disconnect; if I think in a different way than you do, then it may be impossible for me to follow your thought train to see where the problem is. I even said that I have met other long-time gamers who are confused with how the 3e bard works, to illustrate that confusion with the class density is nothing new. 4) Then Spatula then replies to say that the confusion perhaps lies in people reading through from the start of the chapter to the end straight, and how that the number of similar abilities, especially how they relate to the rules (pushing, pulling, weakening - the significance can be lost on those who haven't fully digested those conditions and their significance) may not see the relevance of power differences. 5) Finally, I replied that makes sense; the disconnect is coming from the way in which I read the books, and assumed that many others read it the same way: not start to finish, but jumping around, looking at what is relevant to your interests first, contrasting and comparing, and skipping whole sections. Reading start to finish would indeed be [b]boring[/b]. That, in my mind, is a [b]conversation[/b]. If I was repeating the same thing and not saying anything else, you'd have a case. But I see myself contributing to the conversation, which leads me to... How about since you're not a mod, if you think that I'm threadcrapping, you report me and see what a Mod has to say? [/QUOTE]
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