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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4302552" data-attributes="member: 957">I think you are making something a a false image (for any edition).You make it sound like &quot;learning&quot; is this tedious academic chore that one must endure until they can pass the final exam and only then are they allowed to start &quot;having fun&quot;.&nbsp; I recall learning 1E as a kid and the learning was every bit as fun as the playing.&nbsp; Yeah, there are probably plenty of people out there who wouldn't agree, but for the great bulk of them liking the game learning process and liking pretending to be an elf come in a package.&nbsp; Proportions may vary, but the two go together.&nbsp; And yes, there are certainly exceptions in both directions.&nbsp; I just really don't believe that there are enough exceptions in either direction to make a real profit in net gamers.&nbsp; I think the success of 3E demonstrates that there are tons of gamers who like entire experience.&nbsp; 3E didn't need to retire because no one was willing to play it.&nbsp; Quite simply, it had gotten old enough that some players were just moving on, and for those that stayed, the fields of books to be published had been very well plowed.&nbsp; It was time to rotate the crops.&nbsp; 4E has a new martial book coming out soon.&nbsp; All the low hanging fruit is back.&nbsp; Another 3E Complete Warrior book would be trapped in a major diminishing returns situation regardless of how great the game itself was and how outstanding the supplement was.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4302552, member: 957"] I think you are making something a a false image (for any edition). You make it sound like "learning" is this tedious academic chore that one must endure until they can pass the final exam and only then are they allowed to start "having fun". I recall learning 1E as a kid and the learning was every bit as fun as the playing. Yeah, there are probably plenty of people out there who wouldn't agree, but for the great bulk of them liking the game learning process and liking pretending to be an elf come in a package. Proportions may vary, but the two go together. And yes, there are certainly exceptions in both directions. I just really don't believe that there are enough exceptions in either direction to make a real profit in net gamers. I think the success of 3E demonstrates that there are tons of gamers who like entire experience. 3E didn't need to retire because no one was willing to play it. Quite simply, it had gotten old enough that some players were just moving on, and for those that stayed, the fields of books to be published had been very well plowed. It was time to rotate the crops. 4E has a new martial book coming out soon. All the low hanging fruit is back. Another 3E Complete Warrior book would be trapped in a major diminishing returns situation regardless of how great the game itself was and how outstanding the supplement was. [/QUOTE]

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