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<blockquote data-quote="Harr" data-source="post: 4307401" data-attributes="member: 47190"><p>Such a weird and strange thing that there are so many differing viewpoints on the ease of layout.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I do believe people who complain about it are being perfectly geniune and honest about their opinion, but, well, my little sister made a character in 20 minutes with nothing but the book. I read the book cover to cover front to back and was delighted at it (of course the secret to the supposed 'great wall' is that <em>I skipped reading almost all the powers that I wasn't interested in like a normal person would for godsakes</em>). I had one player who began playing one day turn around that same day and explain to another new player how to make a character to perfection.</p><p></p><p>Strange that neither my sister nor any of my new players felt any compulsion to read chapter 4 entirely page by page. It was weird really, almost as if some sort of 'logic' or 'common sense' were invisibly telling them that it wasn't necessary <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>In all seriousness it strikes me as lunacy that someone would state that the normal way for a person to read the list of spells/powers of any rpg ever printed <em>ever</em> is to just read them all one by one as if they were a novel. Seriously. Wth. Your eyes glazed over?? No! really?? What an unexpected thing to happen! And you had so much fun reading the dictionary cover to cover last week! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I agree that more examples of the rules in action would have been nice, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harr, post: 4307401, member: 47190"] Such a weird and strange thing that there are so many differing viewpoints on the ease of layout. I mean, I do believe people who complain about it are being perfectly geniune and honest about their opinion, but, well, my little sister made a character in 20 minutes with nothing but the book. I read the book cover to cover front to back and was delighted at it (of course the secret to the supposed 'great wall' is that [i]I skipped reading almost all the powers that I wasn't interested in like a normal person would for godsakes[/i]). I had one player who began playing one day turn around that same day and explain to another new player how to make a character to perfection. Strange that neither my sister nor any of my new players felt any compulsion to read chapter 4 entirely page by page. It was weird really, almost as if some sort of 'logic' or 'common sense' were invisibly telling them that it wasn't necessary :D In all seriousness it strikes me as lunacy that someone would state that the normal way for a person to read the list of spells/powers of any rpg ever printed [i]ever[/i] is to just read them all one by one as if they were a novel. Seriously. Wth. Your eyes glazed over?? No! really?? What an unexpected thing to happen! And you had so much fun reading the dictionary cover to cover last week! :D I agree that more examples of the rules in action would have been nice, though. [/QUOTE]
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