Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pramas on the OGL
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="AZRogue" data-source="post: 4139513" data-attributes="member: 3963"><p>While some people may have, indeed, taken things too far and gotten more worked up than they should I find it a bit irresponsible of Pramas to try and spin those who support 3rd party publishers of DnD into religious zealots. I would say that his hyperbole is more due to his own unhappiness with the popularity of the d20 system and its effect on other gaming systems than any honest doubt of open gaming's principles. </p><p></p><p>A lot of the benefits of the OGL are debatable, that's true, but the theories of the business savvy Ryan Dancey who basically fathered the open gaming movement make sense and shouldn't be disregarded. The man believed what he wrote and was in a far better position to craft educated theories than most. There may be no real research either way, I don't know, but the ideas are sound and are, at this point, unprovable other than through anecdotal evidence. </p><p></p><p>And Monte Cook obviously feels much differently than Pramas does regarding the OGL. Which one is correct? I'm not sure we will ever really know. What I do know is that I would, personally, miss the 3rd party support that was available in the past should 4E decide to not to release a license at all. I think it would be a loss, from my perspective, and a part of me would regret its end. </p><p></p><p>Ideally, from my point of view, the best outcome we could hope for would be for LIMITED LICENSING in the form of a stricter GSL that would help provide we gamers an interesting variety of material while preventing the horrible glut of low-quality 3PP games that gave the d20/OGL movement such a bad rep. If such a license was initiated I would be more than pleased and completely reassured. The companies that I would buy from would be more than capable of meeting whatever standards are set forth, I'm sure.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you all will excuse me, I get a dozen more virgins in the after life if I post at least three more times in support of open gaming so I best get to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AZRogue, post: 4139513, member: 3963"] While some people may have, indeed, taken things too far and gotten more worked up than they should I find it a bit irresponsible of Pramas to try and spin those who support 3rd party publishers of DnD into religious zealots. I would say that his hyperbole is more due to his own unhappiness with the popularity of the d20 system and its effect on other gaming systems than any honest doubt of open gaming's principles. A lot of the benefits of the OGL are debatable, that's true, but the theories of the business savvy Ryan Dancey who basically fathered the open gaming movement make sense and shouldn't be disregarded. The man believed what he wrote and was in a far better position to craft educated theories than most. There may be no real research either way, I don't know, but the ideas are sound and are, at this point, unprovable other than through anecdotal evidence. And Monte Cook obviously feels much differently than Pramas does regarding the OGL. Which one is correct? I'm not sure we will ever really know. What I do know is that I would, personally, miss the 3rd party support that was available in the past should 4E decide to not to release a license at all. I think it would be a loss, from my perspective, and a part of me would regret its end. Ideally, from my point of view, the best outcome we could hope for would be for LIMITED LICENSING in the form of a stricter GSL that would help provide we gamers an interesting variety of material while preventing the horrible glut of low-quality 3PP games that gave the d20/OGL movement such a bad rep. If such a license was initiated I would be more than pleased and completely reassured. The companies that I would buy from would be more than capable of meeting whatever standards are set forth, I'm sure. Now, if you all will excuse me, I get a dozen more virgins in the after life if I post at least three more times in support of open gaming so I best get to it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pramas on the OGL
Top