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<blockquote data-quote="catsclaw" data-source="post: 4141042" data-attributes="member: 59911">Just to be clear, you're saying those pushing for an open license, including those working for Wizards of the Coast, are doing it out of self-interest despite it being bad for Wizards of the Coast?There are two flaws in this argument.&nbsp; The first is obvious: it's an ad hominem attack.&nbsp; Who they are might influence the argument they make, but it certainly doesn't change the validity of that argument.The second flaw is more subtle.&nbsp; You're begging the question.&nbsp; By arguing there are two interests--personal and WotC--you're already assuming they're necessarily opposed.&nbsp; And if the personal interests are served by an open license, you're implying WotC's interests are served by a closed license.&nbsp; If anything, the basic argument has been that an open license is good for both WotC and third-party publishers.&nbsp; And for largely the same reasons: keeping people in the hobby, keeping people playing d20 systems, and growing the size of the market.Now you can argue with those contentions--and some people have, including Chris Pramas--but you can't just start by assuming they're false.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="catsclaw, post: 4141042, member: 59911"] Just to be clear, you're saying those pushing for an open license, including those working for Wizards of the Coast, are doing it out of self-interest despite it being bad for Wizards of the Coast? There are two flaws in this argument. The first is obvious: it's an [i]ad hominem[/i] attack. Who they are might influence the argument they make, but it certainly doesn't change the validity of that argument. The second flaw is more subtle. You're begging the question. By arguing there are two interests--personal and WotC--you're already assuming they're necessarily opposed. And if the personal interests are served by an open license, you're implying WotC's interests are served by a closed license. If anything, the basic argument has been that an open license is good for both WotC [i]and[/i] third-party publishers. And for largely the same reasons: keeping people in the hobby, keeping people playing d20 systems, and growing the size of the market. Now you can argue with those contentions--and some people have, including Chris Pramas--but you can't just start by assuming they're false. [/QUOTE]

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