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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3436649" data-attributes="member: 35788">Honestly, I think it is far easier to create a game where the characters don't need to be optimized to have fun than to enforce rules that prevent having fun.  YMMV, of course.Many of the people that post in the rules forum are optimizers by default.  They are interested in the best damage build, or the best AC build, or whatever.  And that's cool.  I read through the forum because once and a while I like the academic challenge of character optimization.However, I never put an optimized character into play.  I don't enjoy playing a character that spent their whole life doing X really well and most other things sub-par.  Its okay for some, but not for me.In practice, I found that teaching players to focus on the RP and not combat is the best advice for minimizing optimization (or level-dipping).  I don't mind a player saying that they want a level of barbarian because they think the rage ability fits the way they play their character.  I do mind a player taking one level of barbarian for some optimization purpose.That's where I'd hang my hat.  Are your players dipping for RP purposes or optimization purposes.  If RP purposes, then why complain?  If for optimization purposes, then change your game so optimization is not important to enjoy the experiance.EDIT: To actually answer your questions, so long as a player has solid RP interests behind a choice for a level ... I let them do what they want with PrCs.</blockquote>

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