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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 3172585" data-attributes="member: 29252">Currently, there are a lot of spellcasting PrC's where, for both the Wizard and the Sorcerer, the requirements are primarily things a well-designed character might reasonably take anyway, that offer full casting progression, and nifties, resulting in a Caster 5/PrC 10 character being strictly better (except for some usually minor things, such as familiar advancement) than a Caster 15.  If your DM were to implement the following....Give:A bonus feat every 5th level of a PrC (so 5th and 10th for a 10 level PrC, or just 5th for a 5 level PrC)Take:Pre-Epic, each level of a full caster level progression PrC grants +1 Spellcasting level forever burns one spell slot from the currently highest available normal (not domain, stat bonus,  specialty, et cetera slots) spell slot after applying the +1 caster level - so the Wizard 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 1 has 2 base 3rd level spell slots, one of which is gone forever (net 1 before bonuses); while the Sorcerer 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 1 has 3 base 3rd level spell slots, one of which is gone forever (net 2 before bonuses). The Wizard 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 3 effectively has 0 4th level spell slots (that's 0, not -; bonus spell slots from high intelligence or specilization still apply) while the Sorcerer 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 3 has 2 4th level spell slots (only one lost due to just now gaining a spell slot); a Sorcerer 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 10/Other full spellcasting PrC 5 (20th level) would have spells per day looking like....6/6/6/4/4/4/4/4/4/3 (lost 2 3rd (6th and 7th character level), 2 4th (8th and 9th), 2 5th (10th and 11th), 2 6th (12th and 13th), 2 7th (14th and 15th), 2 8th (16th and 17th), and 3 9th (18th, 19th and 20th) level spell slots),While the Wizard 5/Mage of the Arcane Order 10/Other full spellcasting PrC 5 would look like....4/4/4/3/2/2/2/2/2/0 (lost 1 3rd (6th character level), 2 4th (7th and 8th ), 2 5th (at 9th and 10th), 2 6th (at 11th and 12th), 2 7th (at 13th and 14th), 2 8th (at 15th and 16th), and 4 9th (at 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th) level spell slots)Class abilities that cost spell slots (like the Archmage's) still do so.Now, would such a thing balance a full caster progression PrC vs. a pure classed spellcaster?</blockquote>

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