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PrC: Black Healer (needs balancing)
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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 617238" data-attributes="member: 7211"><p>But can a fighter 5 take this class? Heal isnt on his list...maybe you have a "cosmopolitan" or equvielent feat, but the main point is noone is really getting into this class at the lowest level possible except maybe a druid.</p><p></p><p>So for a really high level fighter whos been spending 2 sp a level to get the heal requirements it may be a good option, but they would still lose some bab (which is the fighters bread and butter, as they can turn it into damage or ac). And they wont have the will minimum of 5 for quite a long time...unless they multiclass.</p><p></p><p>With your prereqs of "Will Save +5 or higher, Heal skill ranks 5+, Skill Focus: Heal, flavor text yadda yadda." the only thing getting in early is a Cleric or Druid, at 5th. It takes quite a bit to nail that Will req (unless you allow wisdom bonus, which means people can get in as early as 2nd level...). If you want fighters to take this class, add a BAB req.</p><p></p><p>My point was, fighters arent taking this class, because most fighters are getting more feats, multi-ing to get some spells, or taking a fighter prestige class. Hence, anyone that takes it will NOT definitely have heavy armor.</p><p></p><p>Let me put it this way, if you take away Fast Healing are you left with any "toughness"? Another thing I'd like to point out is that after you actually get Fast Healing the number becomes less important (ie at 20th level it doesnt matter if you have Fast Healing 3 or Fast Healing 5, the point is, you have fast healing). And allow me to reiterate that Fast Healing = Regeneration.</p><p></p><p>I could see Fast Healing while in swamp or underground terrain, but thats about it. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for the discussion topic, it was fun to pick apart! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Technik</p><p></p><p>PS- If youd like further balancing, try to make 3 different characters with varying levels of the prc. Then just compare them as if they had regular levels of their class (or other prcs).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 617238, member: 7211"] But can a fighter 5 take this class? Heal isnt on his list...maybe you have a "cosmopolitan" or equvielent feat, but the main point is noone is really getting into this class at the lowest level possible except maybe a druid. So for a really high level fighter whos been spending 2 sp a level to get the heal requirements it may be a good option, but they would still lose some bab (which is the fighters bread and butter, as they can turn it into damage or ac). And they wont have the will minimum of 5 for quite a long time...unless they multiclass. With your prereqs of "Will Save +5 or higher, Heal skill ranks 5+, Skill Focus: Heal, flavor text yadda yadda." the only thing getting in early is a Cleric or Druid, at 5th. It takes quite a bit to nail that Will req (unless you allow wisdom bonus, which means people can get in as early as 2nd level...). If you want fighters to take this class, add a BAB req. My point was, fighters arent taking this class, because most fighters are getting more feats, multi-ing to get some spells, or taking a fighter prestige class. Hence, anyone that takes it will NOT definitely have heavy armor. Let me put it this way, if you take away Fast Healing are you left with any "toughness"? Another thing I'd like to point out is that after you actually get Fast Healing the number becomes less important (ie at 20th level it doesnt matter if you have Fast Healing 3 or Fast Healing 5, the point is, you have fast healing). And allow me to reiterate that Fast Healing = Regeneration. I could see Fast Healing while in swamp or underground terrain, but thats about it. Thanks for the discussion topic, it was fun to pick apart! :) Technik PS- If youd like further balancing, try to make 3 different characters with varying levels of the prc. Then just compare them as if they had regular levels of their class (or other prcs). [/QUOTE]
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