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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 1305742" data-attributes="member: 141">MarauderX,A 4th level caster *could not* qualify for this prestige class. He needs still mind, and so he has to be a 3rd level monk as well as a 3rd level wizard.&nbsp; So for his 7th character level he could take the first level of this prestige class.If you could enter the class at 5th level it would be too strong, as your analysis shows.&nbsp; But for a character two levels higher than you imagine the Disciple of Logic to be, the power level is much, much more reasonable.A few changes could be made to tidy the class up.&nbsp; The description of monk abilities sounds like one adds the prestige class level to the monk level in order to determine unarmed damage, AC bonus, and unarmored speed bonus.&nbsp; The chart seems to indicate that one adds only the odd-numbered levels. I would reword the description so that it is clear which is meant.I would also drop Slippery Mind.&nbsp; With +3 to will saves from being a monk, +2 from still mind, +3 from being a wizard, +4 from DoL and +2 from iron will, I think it is not really necessary.&nbsp; Anyway, he can wait two levels for Discipline Mind to obviate the need for most will saves.Keep the pre-req's as written.&nbsp; It requires a lot of focus to qualify for this class, but I think that is the idea of the class, so that's ok.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 1305742, member: 141"] MarauderX, A 4th level caster *could not* qualify for this prestige class. He needs still mind, and so he has to be a 3rd level monk as well as a 3rd level wizard. So for his 7th character level he could take the first level of this prestige class. If you could enter the class at 5th level it would be too strong, as your analysis shows. But for a character two levels higher than you imagine the Disciple of Logic to be, the power level is much, much more reasonable. A few changes could be made to tidy the class up. The description of monk abilities sounds like one adds the prestige class level to the monk level in order to determine unarmed damage, AC bonus, and unarmored speed bonus. The chart seems to indicate that one adds only the odd-numbered levels. I would reword the description so that it is clear which is meant. I would also drop Slippery Mind. With +3 to will saves from being a monk, +2 from still mind, +3 from being a wizard, +4 from DoL and +2 from iron will, I think it is not really necessary. Anyway, he can wait two levels for Discipline Mind to obviate the need for most will saves. Keep the pre-req's as written. It requires a lot of focus to qualify for this class, but I think that is the idea of the class, so that's ok. [/QUOTE]

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