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<blockquote data-quote="Camarath" data-source="post: 1045724" data-attributes="member: 11987">Does the cleric's domain ability say that it is based of the characters cleric level? AFAIK it does not do so thus you should IMO use the clerics total character level.The paladin would turn (earth elementals) as level 11 cleric as would the cleric. My argument was not limited to non-clerics but included clerics as well.In no case I can think of would a Wizard 19/Contemplative 1's domain powers be stronger than a Cleric 10/Contemplative 10's would be. In fact since wizard levels would not count as cleric levels for the purpose of abilities with that specific limitation many posible domains would be much weaker. Note that for domain abilities that expressly state they are based on a character's cleric level are based solely on the character's cleric level. For example a wizard who gained the Death domain would not be able to use the domain ability because it is based solely upon the character's cleric level which the character does not possess. If the prestige class states that it's levels count for the sake of domain abilities (or domains) then you would count them as cleric levels for that purpose, but not unless that is actualy stated.I sometimes house rule it so that prestige classes that add to a character's cleric casting ability also add to the character's effective cleric level for the purpose of domain abilities. I usually only do this if the domain fits the prestige class's focus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Camarath, post: 1045724, member: 11987"] Does the cleric's domain ability say that it is based of the characters cleric level? AFAIK it does not do so thus you should IMO use the clerics total character level. The paladin would turn (earth elementals) as level 11 cleric as would the cleric. My argument was not limited to non-clerics but included clerics as well. In no case I can think of would a Wizard 19/Contemplative 1's domain powers be stronger than a Cleric 10/Contemplative 10's would be. In fact since wizard levels would not count as cleric levels for the purpose of abilities with that specific limitation many posible domains would be much weaker. Note that for domain abilities that expressly state they are based on a character's cleric level are based solely on the character's cleric level. For example a wizard who gained the Death domain would not be able to use the domain ability because it is based solely upon the character's cleric level which the character does not possess. If the prestige class states that it's levels count for the sake of domain abilities (or domains) then you would count them as cleric levels for that purpose, but not unless that is actualy stated. I sometimes house rule it so that prestige classes that add to a character's cleric casting ability also add to the character's effective cleric level for the purpose of domain abilities. I usually only do this if the domain fits the prestige class's focus. [/QUOTE]

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