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<blockquote data-quote="LordJaeden" data-source="post: 941219" data-attributes="member: 12168"><p>I really like this PrC, it is an elegant blend of magic and psionics.</p><p></p><p>@Anabstercorian: </p><p>From what I can tell the Psychomancer is not going to get both 9th level spells or powers unless you hit epic levels. The class requires both 3rd level spells and 3rd level powers to even qualify. That means 5th level Wizard and 6th Psion(or is it 5th? I thought psions advanced like a sorc in spell power *shurgs* I will assume that a Psion get his 3rd level power at level 5 since it works best that way). Even if you only need 5 levels of each you still only get 7 additional caster levels to both classes. That means that at level 19 this class can finally cast 6th level spells and manifest 6th level powers.</p><p></p><p>@Nifft:</p><p>One of the first things that stikes me how long this character could keep casting spells and manifesting powers. Something along the lines of "While you do not have as much bang for your buck you sure do have a lot of bucks" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Giving up 7th, 8th and 9th level spells and powers for a huge amount of flexibility and a expanded spell list. I'm not sure if that is game breaking or not but is sure does look cool.</p><p></p><p>A few things I would like to see, I don't have acces to my Psionics handbook but I will do my best.</p><p></p><p><strong>Companion Synergy:</strong> Combining both of the Familliars and the Psi Crystals (*cough*Magic Rock*cough*) ablilities seems like it may be a little overpowered. A little elaboration on what happens may be in order.</p><p></p><p><strong>Eldrich Sublimation:</strong> Another of the things that stood out to me is how much this class is geared towards Wizards leaving Sorcerers and Bards 'out in the cold'. A little rewording to allow them to make use of this power would be good. Do not forget that a Sorcerer gets their 3rd level spells at level 6 and a Bard at level 7 so even then they cannot 'finish' the class by level 20 like a Wizard/Psion.</p><p></p><p><strong>Psychomotive Penetration:</strong> I would suggest that this be capped at one half his Psychomancers level. Hmmm, on second though leave it as is. The Psychomancer is not going to have nearly (read: a little over half) the caster level of a Wizard. At level 20 by spending 20 power point to get the full bonus of Psychomotive Penetration the Psychomancer will have spell penetration that is 2 higher than a wizard of the same level. I might even say that it is underpowered, by costing to many PP but then I am not sure how many points this class gets (no book <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> )</p><p></p><p><strong>Mental Arcana:</strong> hmmmmmmmmmm, this ability is making me think, I can't decide if it is perfect, overpowered, underpowered or what. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>Fact1: Only the dedicated Wizard/Psion will get this ability, taking any other levels or have levels in Psychic Warrior, Sorcerer, or Bard make it impossible to get this ability before level 20.</p><p></p><p>Fact2: This ability mimics three feats, Still Spell, Silent Spell and Eschew Magical Components.</p><p></p><p>Fact3: Using this ability for a level 1 spell is really cheap, 3 free feats for 1 power point</p><p></p><p>Fact4: Using this ablility for a level 6 spell is really expensive, 3 free feats for 11 power points.</p><p></p><p>Bah, I would say it is a good one. Mental Arcana is the level 10 PrC ablility, it is meant to be the 'crown jewel' of the class. The fact that you need to be level 20 before you get it entitles this ablility to kick ass <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Overall I would say this is a superb Presitge Class, all it needs is a little polish, a little clarification and a little rewording to give Sorcerers and Bards a chance to use the ablilities. I really like the creativity and ingenuity of this class. This is one file that is going in my DnD folder. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordJaeden, post: 941219, member: 12168"] I really like this PrC, it is an elegant blend of magic and psionics. @Anabstercorian: From what I can tell the Psychomancer is not going to get both 9th level spells or powers unless you hit epic levels. The class requires both 3rd level spells and 3rd level powers to even qualify. That means 5th level Wizard and 6th Psion(or is it 5th? I thought psions advanced like a sorc in spell power *shurgs* I will assume that a Psion get his 3rd level power at level 5 since it works best that way). Even if you only need 5 levels of each you still only get 7 additional caster levels to both classes. That means that at level 19 this class can finally cast 6th level spells and manifest 6th level powers. @Nifft: One of the first things that stikes me how long this character could keep casting spells and manifesting powers. Something along the lines of "While you do not have as much bang for your buck you sure do have a lot of bucks" :D Giving up 7th, 8th and 9th level spells and powers for a huge amount of flexibility and a expanded spell list. I'm not sure if that is game breaking or not but is sure does look cool. A few things I would like to see, I don't have acces to my Psionics handbook but I will do my best. [b]Companion Synergy:[/b] Combining both of the Familliars and the Psi Crystals (*cough*Magic Rock*cough*) ablilities seems like it may be a little overpowered. A little elaboration on what happens may be in order. [b]Eldrich Sublimation:[/b] Another of the things that stood out to me is how much this class is geared towards Wizards leaving Sorcerers and Bards 'out in the cold'. A little rewording to allow them to make use of this power would be good. Do not forget that a Sorcerer gets their 3rd level spells at level 6 and a Bard at level 7 so even then they cannot 'finish' the class by level 20 like a Wizard/Psion. [b]Psychomotive Penetration:[/b] I would suggest that this be capped at one half his Psychomancers level. Hmmm, on second though leave it as is. The Psychomancer is not going to have nearly (read: a little over half) the caster level of a Wizard. At level 20 by spending 20 power point to get the full bonus of Psychomotive Penetration the Psychomancer will have spell penetration that is 2 higher than a wizard of the same level. I might even say that it is underpowered, by costing to many PP but then I am not sure how many points this class gets (no book :rolleyes: ) [b]Mental Arcana:[/b] hmmmmmmmmmm, this ability is making me think, I can't decide if it is perfect, overpowered, underpowered or what. :confused: Fact1: Only the dedicated Wizard/Psion will get this ability, taking any other levels or have levels in Psychic Warrior, Sorcerer, or Bard make it impossible to get this ability before level 20. Fact2: This ability mimics three feats, Still Spell, Silent Spell and Eschew Magical Components. Fact3: Using this ability for a level 1 spell is really cheap, 3 free feats for 1 power point Fact4: Using this ablility for a level 6 spell is really expensive, 3 free feats for 11 power points. Bah, I would say it is a good one. Mental Arcana is the level 10 PrC ablility, it is meant to be the 'crown jewel' of the class. The fact that you need to be level 20 before you get it entitles this ablility to kick ass :p Overall I would say this is a superb Presitge Class, all it needs is a little polish, a little clarification and a little rewording to give Sorcerers and Bards a chance to use the ablilities. I really like the creativity and ingenuity of this class. This is one file that is going in my DnD folder. :p [/QUOTE]
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