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PrCs - which ones are (a bit) over the edge?
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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 3402405" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Oh, as for my opinion of a PrC that's too powerful - almost any PrC with "+1 caster level" at every level. These classes are almost guaranteed to be too powerful, unless they either omit the progression at level 1, or require that the character give up a level in the course of qualifying for the class. (So, Mystic Theurge is actually fine, since the character must take both Wizard and Cleric levels to qualify, where Alienist is probably too powerful.)</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, I haven't seen any classes that I would ban outright as a power issue. There are some I would ban because of flavour issues, and a lot of classes I just don't like for various reasons. (And, in fact, even those "+1 caster level" PrCs don't get banned - the differential is generally not enough to worry about, especially if everyone has the same access to PrCs.)</p><p></p><p>Where there is more likely to be a problem, IMO, is the wierd combinations, where you combine a level here, a level there, a couple of key feats, just the right magic item/spell/effect, and end up with a monster. But those are harder to find without help, and can easily enough be banner or nerfed as necessary. (Also, most of the classic examples of such rely on an over-generous reading of the RAW, where the DM can easily enough insist on a conservative reading, or violate the spirit of the rules in a very obvious manner.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 3402405, member: 22424"] Oh, as for my opinion of a PrC that's too powerful - almost any PrC with "+1 caster level" at every level. These classes are almost guaranteed to be too powerful, unless they either omit the progression at level 1, or require that the character give up a level in the course of qualifying for the class. (So, Mystic Theurge is actually fine, since the character must take both Wizard and Cleric levels to qualify, where Alienist is probably too powerful.) Otherwise, I haven't seen any classes that I would ban outright as a power issue. There are some I would ban because of flavour issues, and a lot of classes I just don't like for various reasons. (And, in fact, even those "+1 caster level" PrCs don't get banned - the differential is generally not enough to worry about, especially if everyone has the same access to PrCs.) Where there is more likely to be a problem, IMO, is the wierd combinations, where you combine a level here, a level there, a couple of key feats, just the right magic item/spell/effect, and end up with a monster. But those are harder to find without help, and can easily enough be banner or nerfed as necessary. (Also, most of the classic examples of such rely on an over-generous reading of the RAW, where the DM can easily enough insist on a conservative reading, or violate the spirit of the rules in a very obvious manner.) [/QUOTE]
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