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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sammael" data-source="post: 4642113" data-attributes="member: 4475">The street chase was actually quite fun due to creative role-playing, but this had nothing to do with the rules, which are broken. Maybe they'll get the skill challenges right eventually, but I am surprised they let a glaring error such as that one slip into the production version of the rules; it would have been better to omit the system altogether and then publish it in the DDI after it was polished.The problem with figuring out what the bad guys are doing is that it gets really old really fast. Not that 3.5 had a whole lot more options for the bad guys, but 3.5 combats didn't take nearly as long (in-game). There's no way an encounter with 5 undead that featured the cleric and the paladin would have taken 12 rounds - as quirky as it was, 3.5 turn undead would have made a much bigger difference. Of course, the fact that 4E creatures have so many hit points doesn't exactly add to the fun. So, it wasn't speed that bothered me and the players, it was repetitiveness, continued inability of the players to actually do anything in the battle, and the fact that they had to hit a run-of-the-mill skeleton 5 times to kill it. They all thought it was ridiculous. They also complained how skeletons should have DR against piercing and slashing weapons and were amazed (in a bad way) that it is possible to sneak attack them or deal critical hit damage to them. Not that it helped.I haven't played with someone who's run a lot of 4E games, although I'd certainly like to try and see how the game looks from the player's side of the screen. The reason? I don't know a single person playing 4E in Belgrade. People are either playing 3.5, AD&D, or have switched to other systems. Curiously, most of the people who actually like some aspects of 4E seem to have switched to Exalted, which is a system I personally can't stand.I can appreciate that RPGA players are having fun, since most RPGA modules (I've seen) are designed with tactical play in mind, and I guess teamwork makes a huge difference. It's just... not for me. And most of my players are not team players and would abhorre being forced into using teamwork to survive. Different strokes and all that...</blockquote>

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