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<blockquote data-quote="Green Knight" data-source="post: 646842" data-attributes="member: 2723"><p>I REALLY wish I had bought those while they were out! I wanted to get them at the time but always found myself short on cash, and now they're no longer being sold. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p> </p><p>Anyway, I've adopted a "Wait and See" attitude on this. If this is just a retread of MageKnight and HeroClix (HeroClix is TOLERABLE for me, but not the kind of quality I'd spend money on for my D&D game) then I won't buy it. </p><p> </p><p>However, WoTC IS owned by Hasbro. About time they put that to good use. Namely in producing miniatures which are akin to toys, sans the articulation. Personally I think they could sell high-quality boosters with over half a dozen miniatures for less than $10. </p><p> </p><p>For instance, take the current<strong> Transformers: Armada</strong> toy line (Ignore the suck-ass show during the course of this example). You can buy a pack of 3 Mini-Cons for $7.99. Mini-Cons are about the size of your average miniature, but unlike them they have articulation, the parts for which increase the production cost of the toy. With no actual metal bits or anything of the sort, the price would be a lot cheaper, therefore you can get more than 3 figures for $7.99. </p><p> </p><p>Or take G.I. Joes. I don't know about recent ones, but I DO know that the ones I had in the 80's were gorgeous. Imagine having an army of those guys, using them for a war game, just that they have zero articulation? That's what I'm hoping for. In essence toys, made of the durable plastic, with great details and paint jobs, and only lacking in articulation (I.E. You won't be able to take that orcs legs, wrap it around its head, and have it kiss its own ass. You'll have to use Cobra Commander if you want to do that sort of thing). </p><p> </p><p>As for the randomness part, I'm hoping it won't be COMPLETELY random. Hopefully, you'll be able to buy "Orc Boosters", "Hobgoblin Boosters", Lycanthrope Boosters", etc. The randomness will be what they're armed with. For instance, orcs with greataxes are common, but the orc with the double-axe will be a rare. So they still maintain the collectibility aspect, while making it easy for DM's to get the monsters they need for their games (And at the end of the day, does it REALLY matter what Orc Warrior #5 is armed with? Chances are, the only reason you'll have an orc with a double-axe is because he's an important NPC, rather than just a random mook). </p><p> </p><p>Of course, WoTC may yet go the cheap route and produce a cheap MageKnight knock-off. And they may go completely random, and DM's looking to get 5 or 6 werewolves for their next game may have to sort through endless numbers of boosters, getting an endless amount of orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, and kobolds, before at last finding one stinking werewolf ... and then buy a half dozen more boosters before finding a second werewolf. And a third... And a fourth... etc... </p><p> </p><p>So "wait" and "see" are my watchwords when it comes to this. Hopefully I'm right (And hopefully WoTC will release a pewter subline for PC's, or at least license someone else, like Reaper, to make one), but I'll never go so far as to underestimate WoTC's cheapness. So as much as I'm hoping for nice looking minis, I'm equally expecting minis equal to the worst that MageKnight has to offer. And if they do suck, well, doesn't mean I can't use the rules if they're any good. In which case I'll buy the rules and use some other miniatures for my battles. There's no law that says I have to use<em> Official WoTC Sanctioned Miniatures</em> in whatever home games I play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Green Knight, post: 646842, member: 2723"] I REALLY wish I had bought those while they were out! I wanted to get them at the time but always found myself short on cash, and now they're no longer being sold. :( Anyway, I've adopted a "Wait and See" attitude on this. If this is just a retread of MageKnight and HeroClix (HeroClix is TOLERABLE for me, but not the kind of quality I'd spend money on for my D&D game) then I won't buy it. However, WoTC IS owned by Hasbro. About time they put that to good use. Namely in producing miniatures which are akin to toys, sans the articulation. Personally I think they could sell high-quality boosters with over half a dozen miniatures for less than $10. For instance, take the current[b] Transformers: Armada[/b] toy line (Ignore the suck-ass show during the course of this example). You can buy a pack of 3 Mini-Cons for $7.99. Mini-Cons are about the size of your average miniature, but unlike them they have articulation, the parts for which increase the production cost of the toy. With no actual metal bits or anything of the sort, the price would be a lot cheaper, therefore you can get more than 3 figures for $7.99. Or take G.I. Joes. I don't know about recent ones, but I DO know that the ones I had in the 80's were gorgeous. Imagine having an army of those guys, using them for a war game, just that they have zero articulation? That's what I'm hoping for. In essence toys, made of the durable plastic, with great details and paint jobs, and only lacking in articulation (I.E. You won't be able to take that orcs legs, wrap it around its head, and have it kiss its own ass. You'll have to use Cobra Commander if you want to do that sort of thing). As for the randomness part, I'm hoping it won't be COMPLETELY random. Hopefully, you'll be able to buy "Orc Boosters", "Hobgoblin Boosters", Lycanthrope Boosters", etc. The randomness will be what they're armed with. For instance, orcs with greataxes are common, but the orc with the double-axe will be a rare. So they still maintain the collectibility aspect, while making it easy for DM's to get the monsters they need for their games (And at the end of the day, does it REALLY matter what Orc Warrior #5 is armed with? Chances are, the only reason you'll have an orc with a double-axe is because he's an important NPC, rather than just a random mook). Of course, WoTC may yet go the cheap route and produce a cheap MageKnight knock-off. And they may go completely random, and DM's looking to get 5 or 6 werewolves for their next game may have to sort through endless numbers of boosters, getting an endless amount of orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, and kobolds, before at last finding one stinking werewolf ... and then buy a half dozen more boosters before finding a second werewolf. And a third... And a fourth... etc... So "wait" and "see" are my watchwords when it comes to this. Hopefully I'm right (And hopefully WoTC will release a pewter subline for PC's, or at least license someone else, like Reaper, to make one), but I'll never go so far as to underestimate WoTC's cheapness. So as much as I'm hoping for nice looking minis, I'm equally expecting minis equal to the worst that MageKnight has to offer. And if they do suck, well, doesn't mean I can't use the rules if they're any good. In which case I'll buy the rules and use some other miniatures for my battles. There's no law that says I have to use[i] Official WoTC Sanctioned Miniatures[/i] in whatever home games I play. [/QUOTE]
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