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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4718800" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>Careful Attack's situation... ie, that you need precisely a 19 to hit without it... is a little dubious for the DM to subject the party to. And I'm not even sure it's better in that instance.</p><p></p><p>If a creature has a reaction to when you miss it, Careful Attack still isn't a better option because it would take you literally almost twice as long to kill the creature as when using Twin Strike... and in that time Careful Attack would end up missing almost as many times, plus I bet the creature has some kind of actual action too.</p><p></p><p>That is, if your average damage for a single 1W (no Dex) attack is 10, and you have a 60% chance to hit with a normal shot, 70% with Careful Attack, you have a 64% chance per round (40% per shot, twice) to trigger the reaction with Twin Strike and a 30% chance with Careful Attack. </p><p></p><p>So, if the critter in question has 100 hp, it takes you about 15 rounds to kill it with Careful Attack, getting around 4.5 reactions in that time. Meanwhilst, it takes you 9 rounds to kill it with Twin Strike, netting 5.5 reactions in that time... _and 6 less rounds of actual combat_.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 4718800, member: 43019"] Careful Attack's situation... ie, that you need precisely a 19 to hit without it... is a little dubious for the DM to subject the party to. And I'm not even sure it's better in that instance. If a creature has a reaction to when you miss it, Careful Attack still isn't a better option because it would take you literally almost twice as long to kill the creature as when using Twin Strike... and in that time Careful Attack would end up missing almost as many times, plus I bet the creature has some kind of actual action too. That is, if your average damage for a single 1W (no Dex) attack is 10, and you have a 60% chance to hit with a normal shot, 70% with Careful Attack, you have a 64% chance per round (40% per shot, twice) to trigger the reaction with Twin Strike and a 30% chance with Careful Attack. So, if the critter in question has 100 hp, it takes you about 15 rounds to kill it with Careful Attack, getting around 4.5 reactions in that time. Meanwhilst, it takes you 9 rounds to kill it with Twin Strike, netting 5.5 reactions in that time... _and 6 less rounds of actual combat_. [/QUOTE]
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