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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4269592" data-attributes="member: 43019">Dunno, I like the idea that it doesn't matter if you can touch the Tarrasque, you have to get past its Fort to actually budge it. I was mostly trying to offer Hong what felt like a cleaner alternative - not having to ask the defender how they want to defend, nor allowing bull rush to give free shifts but still allowing Reflex to count.</blockquote>