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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 120853" data-attributes="member: 1118">The differences is in the spell description.If it says Casting Time: 1 Round then it's the special case of a Full Round Action that doesn't complete until just before your next turn (source - Glossary Description of a Full Round Action)If it's a spell that takes just a Full Round Action to cast (and the only time this occurs is when you apply a metamagic feat spontaneously to a spell) then it just takes a Full Round Action.&nbsp; No where do the rules on metamagic say that the casting time changes to 1 round.&nbsp; It just says that it takes a full round action to cast it.&nbsp; A Whirlwind attacks is a full round action.&nbsp; It starts and ends during the fighter's initiative count in the round that he declared the attack.&nbsp; He is not still making WWAs until just before his initiative count (or else monster moving into range would suffer the WWA too).&nbsp; It's the same thing with a FRA to cast a spell.&nbsp; It is NOT a spell that has a full round casting time.Anyway, it's obviously different to me and it's not to you.&nbsp; So, I guess there's nothing more to say.IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 120853, member: 1118"] The differences is in the spell description. If it says Casting Time: 1 Round then it's the special case of a Full Round Action that doesn't complete until just before your next turn (source - Glossary Description of a Full Round Action) If it's a spell that takes just a Full Round Action to cast (and the only time this occurs is when you apply a metamagic feat spontaneously to a spell) then it just takes a Full Round Action. No where do the rules on metamagic say that the casting time changes to 1 round. It just says that it takes a full round action to cast it. A Whirlwind attacks is a full round action. It starts and ends during the fighter's initiative count in the round that he declared the attack. He is not still making WWAs until just before his initiative count (or else monster moving into range would suffer the WWA too). It's the same thing with a FRA to cast a spell. It is NOT a spell that has a full round casting time. Anyway, it's obviously different to me and it's not to you. So, I guess there's nothing more to say. IceBear [/QUOTE]

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